Tesla Q4 Earnings Call: Unsupervised FSD Robotaxi Service Coming June & Much More!

[HaulingAss]

The direct sunlight in the camera is the most serious limitation, especially since the cameras are no better than human eyesight in that condition. Unfortunately the only likely solution is some form of lidar /radar to supplement camera.

Incorrect. LIDAR is even worse in strong direct sunlight vs. cameras. LIDAR reflects a moving laser beam off the scene and oncoming sunlight overwhelms the sensors trying to read light reflected back from objects in the drive path. LIDAR is also noteably poor in heavy dust, smoke and snow. Even rain, if heavy enough, is problematic for LIDAR.

And cameras (if they are clean) are better than my somewhat aged human eyes in direct sunlight. I'm always glad when I crest a hill directly into the sun and I have FSD engaged. But I've done my homework and kept the cameras clean.

Strong glare causes many accidents with human drivers as is proven by the spike in accidents immediately after sunrise and immediately before sunset. FSD will do far better, statistically speaking. Currently, it asks the human driver to take over but in future releases it will likely slow down (like a smart human would do) and drive through the glare cautiously. Tesla works on the most pressing problems first, not all of them at once.

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[Known-Background]

It’s clear he’s delusional.

 

[NSCyber]

Can someone explain to me how FSD is going to work for people that live in apartment buildings with driveways, gates, and multi-story garages?

Would love a way to train FSD also. For example, on the way home FSD insists on taking a certain route when it’s safer and often times quicker to take the back roads. Even when I use the drop down navigation to view routes it always wants to get back on the main road.

 

[dalton108]

Can someone explain to me how FSD is going to work for people that live in apartment buildings with driveways, gates, and multi-story garages?

Would love a way to train FSD also. For example, on the way home FSD insists on taking a certain route when it’s safer and often times quicker to take the back roads. Even when I use the drop down navigation to view routes it always wants to get back on the main road.

One of the upcoming features is the ability to park in parking spots garages etc. Getting into gated communities when there is no fucking support for home link?

Well, that’s one of the many things that people who are arguing that leaving it out is perfectly fine don’t seem to understand. ?

 

[DrPhyzx]

The direct sunlight in the camera is the most serious limitation, especially since the cameras are no better than human eyesight in that condition. Unfortunately the only likely solution is some form of lidar /radar to supplement camera.

Yeah, that't not true. Human eyesight has adaptive capabilities in challenging conditions requiring large dynamic range and artifact filtering that are FAR beyond cameras. That's why the addition of data from radar, lidar and other modalities are important. ML hasn't succeeded by mimicking the way the brain works (those efforts all crashed and burned over the decades), so why should vision be any different? I don't think Elon is too dumb to understand this, it's just that lidar is expensive - making it problematic on a mass produced vehicle - and Elon is in the business of making money.

 

[ninja6r]

• Elon: "Optimus will be overwhelmingly the value of the company"

This part is both hilarious and sad. FSD and the stupid robotaxi aside, this is what should concern people the most. A vehicle and energy company focusing efforts on a stupid robot. No lower end models, no more-appealing designed truck or minivan. It really blows my mind how this company is being run. The cybertruck is DOA (in terms of their 250k/yr aspirations..they won't even hit half that a year) and should be viewed as an utter failure. Here's hoping to better things in 2025, but I honestly don't see this company getting better.

 

[BlueLightning]

Can’t have one without the other…?

Get to work!

 

[CyberZephyr]

I wonder how Tesla will enable existing cars when most models cannot close door automatically.

Good point! Maybe they would offer a retrofit or smth, but I doubt it. I guess some will just be manual?

 

[Nolacyber]

This part is both hilarious and sad. FSD and the stupid robotaxi aside, this is what should concern people the most. A vehicle and energy company focusing efforts on a stupid robot. No lower end models, no more-appealing designed truck or minivan. It really blows my mind how this company is being run. The cybertruck is DOA (in terms of their 250k/yr aspirations..they won't even hit half that a year) and should be viewed as an utter failure. Here's hoping to better things in 2025, but I honestly don't see this company getting better.

Just the kind of hate we see from the ignorant on the roads.

 

[GuyV]

Good point! Maybe they would offer a retrofit or smth, but I doubt it. I guess some will just be manual?

That's so you will buy an Optimus.

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