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Yes, this message is normal - I've seen it multiple times before.
It happens when the interior camera has a hard time recognizing or validating the your attentiveness.

This could happen for many reasons, such as (but not limited to):
1) Your eyes being out of frame of the interior camera - for example, something drops onto to the vehicle floor then you reach to grab and pick it up.
2) Sunglasses tint could be too dark - the infrared isn't able to penetrate the coating or the tint of your glasses.
3) Your hat might be obstructing its view to your eyes for too long.

What to do to fix:
- Clean the interior lens, located near the rear view mirror, with a microfiber cloth
- Re-calibrate the camera by looking at it for 2-5 seconds when you see the message "Hands free mode off" - it gives a few seconds before it nags to pull on the wheel
- Disengage and reengage FSD altogether
- When parked, go to Service, Camera Preview, then check your interior camera to make sure it's not being obstructed by anything; some people hang items close to their rear-view mirror, so make sure that's not the case.

Hope this helps.
I appreciate your response. I stopped reading the screen messages mostly a long time ago because, despite wearing eyeglasses, I find the font way too small & difficult to read. So maybe those messages have been around for a long time after all. But yesterday was also the first time my wife saw them too because she‘S got eagle eyes & reads them all as they pop up, but only relates the ‘important’ ones to me.

In this particular case I was focusing on a driver using my left side mirror & who was approaching & doing weird things.

what I don’t get is that FSD wants us to keep our eyes on the road, but then it also expects us to read all the messages too. Seems very contradictory to me.
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With the latest versions there is no recognition of the posted “limit.”
This is not true. The speed limit in my neighborhood was changed a few weeks ago and default would be the old limit, but when it sees the new sign, it changes. If I disengage right after and re-engage, it goes to to the old limit.

It also changed to 65 that was on the back of a semi a few days ago.
 

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I appreciate your response. I stopped reading the screen messages mostly a long time ago because, despite wearing eyeglasses, I find the font way too small & difficult to read. So maybe those messages have been around for a long time after all. But yesterday was also the first time my wife saw them too because she‘S got eagle eyes & reads them all as they pop up, but only relates the ‘important’ ones to me.

In this particular case I was focusing on a driver using my left side mirror & who was approaching & doing weird things.

what I don’t get is that FSD wants us to keep our eyes on the road, but then it also expects us to read all the messages too. Seems very contradictory to me.
Yeah, I've noticed the quirkiness of monitoring. Cell phone in hand - no problem. Look far left or right - mostly non-issue. Manipulate the vehicle's screen or look it - "Keep eyes on road" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Makes no sense to me 😅
Hopefully, most of these issues with level of attentiveness will get ironed out as we gradually move towards Level 4 (L4) autonomy.
 

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As for map data, Tesla currently pulls info from Open Street Map. I know this because I had issues with FSD thinking the entrance to my apartment complex didn't exist. I manually added a two-way lane from the main street to the inner round-about at my apartment complex.
Tesla does use OpenStreetMap (OSM) data, but mostly for specific functions in off street situations like Smart Summon in parking lots. However, on the street for routings it's a mix that prioritizes Google Maps for visuals and TomTom for routing. While the main screen shows Google Maps, the underlying navigation engine leverages Tom Tom first and pulls from OSM in areas where other data is lacking or needs community input
I found Reddit user "nakatomi2010" (very Xmas-appropriate lol) who has spent quite a bit of effort deciphering how Tesla uses map data, detailed in this Reddit post:


Tesla uses a blend of data, and it gets updated twice a year.
The map on the screen is Google maps for the visual purposes. The actual routing, I believe, is Azure Maps, though that's really hard to prove.
Azure Maps sources their data from TomTom and OpenStreetMap. When you're questioning a route issue, you can typically go to Bing Maps and find your routing issues there.
Azure Maps will favor TomTom's maps, except in areas where TomTom doesn't have data, then it'll leverage OSM.
TomTom is working on pulling from OSM, but don't at the moment
TomTom updates their maps the second month of every quarter. February, May, August, November. Tesla, as far as I'm aware, will update theirs in May, and November.
When Tesla releases their maps, it updates them in two places. The first is on their backend servers. There's no announcement when this happens, you just notice that the map routes slightly differently. You may not even notice at all if you're not looking for changes. The second place is a local file that you download, which is used for offline routing, but the maps on the backend are typically the ones that matter.
The Points of Interest on the navigation that you're trying to update should line up with Google's Point of Interest, but if you're still having issues, check with TomTom's MapShare. Oddly enough, I have issues correcting points of interest with TomTom.
All that said, if you're making edits in TomTom to show up in the car, you need to get them marked as "fixed" 45 days before May or November. So, by March 15th, or September 15th, otherwise those edits won't be there in May/November.



Of course, this post was two years ago, but it's pretty clear that Tesla does not single-source their map data nor routing logic, and many of these services are interbred anyway.
 

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I got "Blue-Lighted" today on a four lane highway, I assumed for speeding in "Mad Max" mode. (hadn't put my tag sticker on) CyberTruck immediately slowed down and began to pull off the road to the shoulder when I took over so I could pull into a store parking lot. Was very impressed with the recognition of a Police Car and 007's reaction to it. I don't know if it would have completed the maneuver by coming to a complete stop on the shoulder but, the recognition of a Police Car with its lights on behind me was impressive.
 


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oh good, I hope this fixes my issue where my CT wasn't taking me HOME, and driving up my driveway instead go to the next block over, even though it is the wrong street and attempt to enter from the back side of my lot.....odd. Fingers crossed this solves that since it was working fine before the HOLIDAY update.
14.2.2 seems to have fixed this, have returned home twice now and both times came up my drive way and for the first time all the way to the rear of my home.....impressive. Also driving through heavy rain and wind without interruption.....fun to watch the steering wheel fight against cross winds.....still manually setting wiper speed as Auto is too fast for what is needed.
 
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I still haven't received the update for some reason. I usually receive it in the 2nd wave from past data. I tried turning my wifi off in the car and then back on and also switching back and forth between the normal and advanced software update options.
Does anyone know any other tricks to get the CT to look for or force and update?
 

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Anyone have a successful experience using FSD to back into your driveway? My charger is installed inside my garage on the right wall while entering. So backing in allows me to charge and still close the door as I park outside.
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issue and if they solved it, how?
 

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Went for a short drive to Costco. The lane change indicator and switch are smooth. However, made two wrong turns, getting on northbound instead of southbound entrance 🥲
 

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Just wanted to say that 14.2.2 fixed my failed FSD due to aftermarket additions. been missing autopilot for 2 weeks, now its back and even better.
 


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Im downloading now. Praying for reduction in phantom braking at night! V14 is Jekyll and Hyde. During the day it is great. At night tons of phantom braking especially when tree branches over the road shake in the wind.
My AWD Cybertruck has very aggressive phantom braking during my early morning (before sunrise) drives. Super scary and very dangerous. I logged all of the incidents in the Tesla app for my local Tesla service center at their request prior to dropping it off for a service appointment. The vehicle has been with them for over a week now.
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