Autopilot

[Ddanis60]

ok cool. here is the section relevant to the topic of autopilot on the Cybertruck:



Tesla hasn't reached feature parity with most other models yet because they don't have enough training data to satisfy a minimum safety score (and likely hundreds of other boxes to check with regulatory agencies). Also, there is a chance autopilot with the autosteer feature may technically never arrive, since the vast majority of resources in that area are being placed in FSD. The teams want to eventually remove the disparity branch of software between AP and FSD anyway, so long term autopilot will probably be phased out in favor of those features just being packaged with FSD.

Tesla has been quiet on this for a variety of valid reasons.

While I agree with you, Tesla never should have listed something in our purchase agreements that might not come to fruition. That’s on them. Base autopilot wasn’t vaporware to us that ordered in 2024, like fsd was to those who paid for it back in 2017+.

this isn’t like the range extender either, as those were separate deposits that’s are being refunded. This was an included option on a vehicle that we paid in full for. And I’m all good being patient and waiting, as we did with fsd. But to outright cancel a paid for option such as dumb summon and autopilot just feels… off.

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[REM]

It was both implied and listed on the service agreement that we would have these basic long time features when we purchased a foundation that came with FSD.

No it doesn't. It in fact explicitly states that features may or may not be available at the time of purchase or after with software updates. Did you skip over that section?

It even instructed you to ask a sales rep for the details.

 

[dalton108]

No it doesn't. It in fact explicitly states that features may or may not be available at the time of purchase or after with software updates. Did you skip over that section?

It even instructed you to ask a sales rep for the details.

In fairness, asking a sales advisor is almost as useful as asking any rando on the street.

 

[Ddanis60]

No it doesn't. It in fact explicitly states that features may or may not be available at the time of purchase or after with software updates. Did you skip over that section?

It even instructed you to ask a sales rep for the details.

not to get in an argument with you because I do agree with you, both on this and many many other things you post on this forum, I used the word “implied” for that reason. I, what I consider to be a reasonable person of average intelligence, would expect a feature that both exists on every other Tesla model for sale at my time of purchase, and listed on my purchase agreement, to actually be released. It was both implied and listed. However, you’re correct. That line applies to all of my statements and is why Tesla can and will get away with this. Doesn’t make my thoughts unreasonable. And no, I didn’t skip over that section. Still feels off.

 

[Baldyloxx]

RoboTaxi will soon arrive… how does this ‘practice’ look when trying to sell such a product in the near future…?

maybe it will work, maybe it won’t…

 

[REM]

not to get in an argument with you because I do agree with you, both on this and many many other things you post on this forum, I used the word “implied” for that reason. I, what I consider to be a reasonable person of average intelligence, would expect a feature that both exists on every other Tesla model for sale at my time of purchase, and listed on my purchase agreement, to actually be released. It was both implied and listed. However, you’re correct. That line applies to all of my statements and is why Tesla can and will get away with this. Doesn’t make my thoughts unreasonable. And no, I didn’t skip over that section. Still feels off.

Agreed, and well said!

Stuff like this is listed in purchase agreements because the legal dept. can't be expected to keep up with software/feature advances that can be published at the flip of a switch ?

So the onus is always on the purchaser to make sure they fully understand what they are buying.

 

[Baldyloxx]

Agreed, and well said!

Stuff like this is listed in purchase agreements because the legal dept. can't be expected to keep up with software/feature advances that can be published at the flip of a switch ?

So the onus is always on the purchaser to make sure they fully understand what they are buying.

But…. their core products are ALL software driven.

one could even say that without software ALL of their products are nothing.

…except the TeslaBot figurine??. That thing is awesome!!

 

[eswimm]

The question I think that needs to be answered, is was it possible to buy a non-FS Cybertruck when the CT owner's manual referenced Auto Steer as part of Basic Autopilot? I get that people assumed it would have it because the other Models did, but it wasn't as much of an issue until you could buy a CT without FSD. Personally, I think Tesla will eventually feature lock FSD capabilities and eliminate the deprecated software stacks entirely, just because it doesn't make sense to maintain separate auto steer, navigate on autopilot and FSD stacks. I doubt that it's a priority though while they're still trying to bring full FSD feature capability to the CT while still trying progress FSD to unsupervised.

My guess it will be years before Tesla delivers features equivalent to auto steer and nav on autopilot (part of EAP), if they ever do at all.

 

[MIGUEL GONZALEZ DEL REY]

The Cybertruck without FSD has an annoying sound when you move to close to de division line on the road and even makes some force to the steering wheel to correct direction... so the sensors and the software is already there just need to let the car take control..... I can not belive that one of the must notable things that we tesla put in their vehicles has been taken out...

 

[REM]

The Cybertruck without FSD has an annoying sound when you move to close to de division line on the road and even makes some force to the steering wheel to correct direction... so the sensors and the software is already there just need to let the car take control..... I can not belive that one of the must notable things that we tesla put in their vehicles has been taken out...

I hasn't been taken out; it doesn't exist yet. Did you read my earlier post where I gave details of why?

You can't just copy > paste software and features from the Model Y to the CT.

 

[Baldyloxx]

There are two types of Autopilot: Traffic-Aware Cruise Control (TACC), which is standard for all CTs, and Full Self-Driving (FSD), which is "Supervised" and is what you pay for. Now, what's the problem?

more expensive car has less standard (free) adas capabilities than the previous cheaper car… less than some of the competition also.

 

[SCTesla]

There are two types of Autopilot: Traffic-Aware Cruise Control (TACC), which is standard for all CTs, and Full Self-Driving (FSD), which is "Supervised" and is what you pay for. Now, what's the problem?

Since 2019, all Tesla's come with Autopilot which included TACC and Autosteer. FSD and formerly EAP were upgrades. The Cybertruck is the only vehicle that will not get Autosteer as a free option. It won't get Autosteer at all.

The options for the CT are the free TACC or paid FSD. The issue is that Tesla had Autosteer as coming soon for all CTs until May of 2025 when they revised the manual and new purchases. People who purchased their CT prior to this were provided 1 year free of FSD. The notice from Tesla is below:

 

[MIGUEL GONZALEZ DEL REY]

There are two types of Autopilot: Traffic-Aware Cruise Control (TACC), which is standard for all CTs, and Full Self-Driving (FSD), which is "Supervised" and is what you pay for. Now, what's the problem?

the problem is simple, I have autopilot in my model Y (at half the price of the cybertruck) and do not have it in my cybertruck!
the invoice talks about autopilot not TACC or other acronism....

 

[MIGUEL GONZALEZ DEL REY]

I hasn't been taken out; it doesn't exist yet. Did you read my earlier post where I gave details of why?

You can't just copy > paste software and features from the Model Y to the CT.

Is not that it was there and was taken out is that all other tesla models hasve it and the cybertruck does not, in that regard it was taken out of what tesla use to offer.

 

[SCTesla]

Is not that it was there and was taken out is that all other tesla models hasve it and the cybertruck does not, in that regard it was taken out of what tesla use to offer.

It's not coming to the CT. You can try to sue, sell the truck, or get FSD.

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