3D Print Mirror Delete Covers (now printed in stainless steel)

[Gaximus]

Checking in for an update, were you able to finish your modifications? I need to reprint mine, they are warped really bad. Here they are removed and sitting on my table.

I haven't, I have the passenger side done, but the Driver side is still just a piece of PPF floating over the hole.

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[Cyber_Punk_SFL]

Just printed new versions in Carbon Fiber pa6-CF. Let’s see how they hold up in the Florida spring sun.

 

[BeachDweller]

67.97 with shipping. Not bad in my opinion. I also made the plastic covers for the electrical wires.

How does one go about ordering these covers from them? I couldn’t see how.
TIA.

 

[Vegetaban]

How does one go about ordering these covers from them? I couldn’t see how.
TIA.

I uploaded the files and selected the materials.

 

[TickTock]

Just printed new versions in Carbon Fiber pa6-CF. Let’s see how they hold up in the Florida spring sun.

Please let us know (bad or good).

 

[Vegetaban]

Still holding up nicely a couple months in.

 

[Vegetaban]

No issues since removing the mirrors

 

[Cyber_Punk_SFL]

Please let us know (bad or good).

The Carbon Fiber ones work perfect, 6 months in south florida heat through the summer and not a single problem, no warping, still look perfect like the day I printed them.

 

[TickTock]

I took a closer look at vehicle mirror laws in all 50 U.S. states.

LIST A - There are 14 states that require two mirrors including a driver's side mirror:
Alaska
California*
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana*
Maryland*
Michigan*
North Carolina*
Oklahoma
Rhode Island
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin
Wyoming

* Applies to in state registered vehicles only

Example, Oklahoma:
47-12-403. Mirrors.
A. Every motor vehicle shall be equipped with a mirror mounted on the left side of the vehicle and so positioned and located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway to the rear of the motor vehicle.

B. Every motor vehicle shall be equipped with an additional mirror mounted either inside the vehicle approximately in the center or outside the vehicle on the right side and so positioned and located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway to the rear of the vehicle.

LIST B - There are 14 states whose statutes do not explicitly require a mirror as long as the driver has an unobstructed view of the highway to the rear of the vehicle for a distance of at least 200 feet. One can argue that the cameras provide that:
Arizona
Indiana
Maine
Michigan (out of state vehicles only)
Minnesota (specifically allows alternatives to mirrors)
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vermont

Example, Minnesota:
169.70 REAR VIEW MIRROR.
Every motor vehicle constructed, loaded, or connected with another vehicle that obstructs the driver's view to the rear from the driver's position must be equipped with a mirror or other technology that reflects or displays to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle. [the underlining is mine]

[Kudos to Minnesota lawmakers]

Example, Arizona:
28-956. Mirrors; exception
A motor vehicle that is constructed or loaded in a manner that obstructs the driver's view to the rear of the vehicle from the driver's position shall be equipped with two mirrors located in a manner to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least two hundred feet to the rear of the vehicle. This section does not apply to a fully autonomous vehicle that is incapable of operation by a human driver.

[The Cybertruck is constructed with rear view cameras that provide a view to the rear, so mirrors not needed]

Example, South Carolina:
56-5-4990 Mirrors.
Every motor vehicle which is so constructed or loaded as to obstruct the driver's view to the rear thereof from the driver's position shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least two hundred feet to the rear of such vehicle.

[The Cybertruck is constructed with rear view cameras that provide a view to the rear, so mirror not needed]

LIST C - The remaining 23 states require a mirror but do not specify its location on the vehicle as long as it provides an unobstructed view of the road behind the vehicle for at least 200 feet.
Alabama
Arkansas
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Iowa
Massachusetts
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Dakota
Ohio
South Dakota
Texas
West Virginia

Example, Illinois:
Section 625 ILCS 5/12-502 - Mirrors
Every motor vehicle, operated singly or when towing another vehicle, shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of such motor vehicle.

Example, Texas:
547.602. Mirrors Required
A motor vehicle, including a motor vehicle used to tow another vehicle, shall be equipped with a mirror located to reflect to the operator a view of the highway for a distance of at least 200 feet from the rear of the vehicle.

My interpretation of these statutes tells me:

1) One should be able to drive a CT legally in all 50 states with the passenger side mirror removed provided the tonneau cover is left up and the interior rear view mirror is unobstructed.

2) One should be able to drive legally in 41 states (LIST B + LIST C + LIST A*) with both side mirrors removed provided the tonneau cover is left up and the interior rear view mirror is unobstructed.

3) One should be able to drive legally in 14 states (see LIST B) with both side mirrors removed with the tonneau cover down using the camera displays for a clear view behind the vehicle. I would carry a copy of the statute if stopped.

4) One can't drive legally in 36 states (LIST A + LIST C) with both side mirrors removed and the tonneau cover down relying on the camera displays for a clear view behind the vehicle. I would expect to be stopped eventually, and if not prepared to pay a fine or contest a ticket in traffic court, it's best to leave the mirrors on. On the other hand, since the intent of the statues, i.e., driving safety, is achieved via the use of cameras, I would expect a reasonable officer to let it go.

I had an interesting conversation with Grok today about mirror law in Arizona. While Grok acknowledged that the law does not explicitly state that the rearview device must be a mirror for the side mirrors to be optional, it says there is a precedence that it must be a mirror. Grok mentioned two court cases where a driver was using a backup camera as a rearview device and the judge upheld the fine stating that cameras were not a thing when the law was made so the "intent" of the law was for it to be a mirror. Noone has appealed so as it stands we will likely face a fine if we are stopped. I've been driving without side mirrors for over a year and (knocks on wood) so far have had no incidents.

 

[Cybergirl]

I had an interesting conversation with Grok today about mirror law in Arizona. While Grok acknowledged that the law does not explicitly state that the rearview device must be a mirror for the side mirrors to be optional, it says there is a precedence that it must be a mirror. Grok mentioned two court cases where a driver was using a backup camera as a rearview device and the judge upheld the fine stating that cameras were not a thing when the law was made so the "intent" of the law was for it to be a mirror. Noone has appealed so as it stands we will likely face a fine if we are stopped. I've been driving without side mirrors for over a year and (knocks on wood) so far have had no incidents.

That's why I carry two magnetic side view mirrors with me at all times. If stopped, I'm hoping that attaching the mirrors and explaining that I removed the factory mirrors to prevent them from being damaged while traveling off-road will satisfy the officer.

 

[Vegetaban]

That's why I carry two magnetic side view mirrors with me at all times. If stopped, I'm hoping that attaching the mirrors and explaining that I removed the factory mirrors to prevent them from being damaged while traveling off-road will satisfy the officer.

Which mirrors do you have?

 

[espresso-drumbeat]

I've tried ordering the parts from www.in3dtec.com but regardless of computer/browser I use (tried numerous) and parts count I choose, always getting these errors:

Unexpected Application Error!
Invariant failed
Error: Invariant failed

on their website.

Has anyone recently ordered from them?

 

[Cybergirl]

I was successful with these files. Note they are for brushed stainless steel.

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