Why I'm Getting The F150 Lightning

[Jamessmooth007]

Going to buck the trend here. Very very few drivers will ever notice the absence of AWD on the rear drive Cybertruck. For day-to-day driving Tesla's 2WD is fine.

If you don't need the extra range and aren't doing actual 4 wheeling, save yourself $10k and get the single motor/ 2WD. The big advantage of the second motor on the Cybertruck is the 50 miles of additional range.

I’d be willing to bet single motor CT doesn’t happen.

 

[firsttruck]

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I wonder if you can get a CT1 with 500mile range for $50 K.

That is what I want. CT1 with 500mile range.
That battery is probably much more expensive than the 1 or 2 extra motors & extra motor power controllers of CT2/CT3
CT1 with 500mile range probably priced $55 K.

 

[firsttruck]

I’d be willing to bet single motor CT doesn’t happen.

I think single motor CT will happen.

Fleet buyers in southern half of U.S. and in Mexico where it hardly ever snows only need RWD and these buyers want the cost savings. Even small fleets of 10s of Cybertrucks see huge saving when total savings is 10s x $10K.

 

[Zenny]

Going to buck the trend here. Very very few drivers will ever notice the absence of AWD on the rear drive Cybertruck. For day-to-day driving Tesla's 2WD is fine.

If you don't need the extra range and aren't doing actual 4 wheeling, save yourself $10k and get the single motor/ 2WD. The big advantage of the second motor on the Cybertruck is the 50 miles of additional range.

Agree. Depends on location, travel patterns and circumstances. I’m sure some will definitely benefit from 4/Awd. +Usually a bit better eMPG w 2wd. And those on a budget might prefer to spend $7500/$10k on FSD and it’s features/safety instead.

 

[Diehard]

That is what I want. CT1 with 500mile range.
That battery is probably much more expensive than the 1 or 2 extra motors & power controllers of CT2/CT3
CT1 with 500mile range probably priced $55 K.

4680 is suppose to be cheaper to produce which Is one of the reasons CT is a good value. That means if Tesla wants to pass on the savings for the new battery with extra range they can but that would be if they meet all their demand and they don’t know what to do with the battery otherwise the opportunity cost of not using that battery somewhere else likely will determine the cost of extra range. All we can say at this point is what we are willing to pay. Would you go for $55K CT1?

 

[firsttruck]

4680 is suppose to be cheaper to produce which Is one of the reasons CT is a good value. That means if Tesla wants to pass on the savings for the new battery with extra range they can but that would be if they meet all their demand and they don’t know what to do with the battery otherwise the opportunity cost of not using that battery somewhere else likely will determine the cost of extra range. All we can say at this point is what we are willing to pay. Would you go for $55K CT1?

Yes, I absolutely would pay $55K for 500mi CT1. 500mi non-towing range make huge difference in usable towing range.

Much prefer $60K 500mi CT2 with slower acceleration times than 70$ 500mi CT3.
Don't need Ferrari like levels of acceleration in truck.

 

[Ogre]

Yes, I absolutely would pay $55K for 500mi CT1. 500mi non-towing range make huge difference in usable towing range.

Again... single motor doesn't make sense combined with the bigger batteries. It makes sense if you have a small relatively light battery. You would end up with *less* range using the single motor with the bigger battery. As the batteries get bigger, it's more efficient to add a second motor.

Much prefer $60K 500mi CT2 with slower acceleration times than 70$ 500mi CT3.

Same here. Also don't care about towing or hauling 3,500 pounds. But to get the range I want...

But keep in mind, the cost of the motors isn't what makes the truck $69k, it's mostly that giant battery bank. The dual motor Cybertruck with 500 miles range would probably still be $65,000, maybe more.

 

[Ogre]

Agree. Depends on location, travel patterns and circumstances. I’m sure some will definitely benefit from 4/Awd. +Usually a bit better eMPG w 2wd. And those on a budget might prefer to spend $7500/$10k on FSD and it’s features/safety instead.

No. AWD is more efficient save at smaller battery sizes. For Tesla anyhow. I posted a link on the prior page.

 

[Crissa]

I live in the Pacific Northwest and AWD/4WD is a must for at least half the year. In many areas west of the Cascades, winter tires, studs, are almost mandatory, especially in the mountains. Between rain and snow, ...

I grew up there, learned to drive there, and a pair of chains was all I ever needed to get to the closed road atop Mt Mazama and its snowbanks taller than a house.

And no, I never had all wheel drive. Nor did I ever let weather stop me.

You don't need all wheel drive unless you're getting yourself or someone else unstuck from pea, sand, mud, or snow. Just don't drive into a drift of it and you're fine without.

-Crissa

 

[Crissa]

I’d be willing to bet single motor CT doesn’t happen.

Only if Tesla doesn't manage to make enough batteries.

If they do, they will want a budget option.

If they can't make enough batteries, we'll all be the sadder.

-Crissa

 

[Diehard]

Only if Tesla doesn't manage to make enough batteries.

If they do, they will want a budget option.

If they can't make enough batteries, we'll all be the sadder.

-Crissa

I wonder how they came up with the prices. Did they look at the market and realized they need a $40K to convert many ICE shoppers that have $30K options and didn’t know how to get there or they actually did the math before the reveal.

 

[FutureBoy]

I wonder how they came up with the prices. Did they look at the market and realized they need a $40K to convert many ICE shoppers that have $30K options and didn’t know how to get there or they actually did the math before the reveal.

This is Tesla we are talking about. They have out maneuvered everyone and managed to bring in astounding profits when everyone has bet against them. So I’m sure they just guessed on the prices they would charge for the CT.

 

[kev12345]

I grew up there, learned to drive there, and a pair of chains was all I ever needed to get to the closed road atop Mt Mazama and its snowbanks taller than a house.

And no, I never had all wheel drive. Nor did I ever let weather stop me.

You don't need all wheel drive unless you're getting yourself or someone else unstuck from pea, sand, mud, or snow. Just don't drive into a drift of it and you're fine without.

-Crissa

were you in a front or rear wheel drive vehicle? front wheel drive is great in the snow but rear wheel drive (front heavy) trucks are terrible. weight distribution should be different with electric but I'd still never buy a rear wheel drive ct in the pacific north west.

 

[Ogre]

This is Tesla we are talking about.

Well that explains why $69k is the top price anyhow.

The prices are very similar to the prices of the Model Y for the CT 1 and CT 2. The CT3 is sort of a class of it's own with mega-range and likely the largest battery in any Tesla (by a good margin)

 

[Crissa]

were you...

Yes, a 1980 Honda Accord is a front-wheel drive. As was the '87 Civic, as was the Dodge Caravan and Ford Escort.

We did eventually get a 4wd truck, the last two trucks dad had, but for the most part we just put a load in the back when we needed his earlier trucks.

Saying it's required is misleading. Only a tiny minority of the northwest experiences winter hazard weather for more than a handful of days a year, and some years not at all.

Traction devices are more important than awd in any case.

-Crissa