Tesla Superchargers removed from NJ Turnpike

[carsly]

Absolutely, they don't want to let them even co-exist because they know majority of EV's are Tesla and no one would use their chargers unless by force. It'll bite them in the ass because people will get off to go to a Tesla charger and it'll drive business away from their rest stops because people will already be off the turnpike - might as well get some food while were off and not pay $32 for a hamburger and drink.

I'll go to a Wawa off the turnpike to charge - oh, and hey they have food and drinks and bathrooms. F Applegreen and the cronies who gave them the exclusive charging rights for the Turnpike.

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[EWELON]

at the turnpike now. they have nacs and ccs chargers but the nacs plug is too short for ct. youll have to get the long a2z adapter and use the ccs plug at these chargers. not sure if thats been said.

 

[thetuxcat]

at the turnpike now. they have nacs and ccs chargers but the nacs plug is too short for ct. youll have to get the long a2z adapter and use the ccs plug at these chargers. not sure if thats been said.

I chose to take I295 instead of turnpike, cheaper too

 

[65SoYoLO]

Again, dumbest move ever.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. New Jersey residents will be less served now, feel sorry for EV users there.

Residents of most states hardly ever use the superchargers in their own states, with Texas and California being major exceptions. Especially in a state like NJ, hardly any state resident is affected by this, as they charge at home and can get pretty much anywhere in the state and back without charging.

This mostly affects out of state road trippers. Last week I drove my CT with a large trailer from Maryland to upstate NY, including going the length of the NJ Turnpike, had no issues.

This is a tempest in a teapot, and really shows some members here to be xenophobes. They decry franchising the NJTP rest stops to a foreign company, meanwhile US companies run rest stops and hotels all over the EU, and the majority of Tesla unit sales are outside the United states. People who say that a foreign-owned company should be barred from consideration to run these functions should be ashamed. Donald Trump owns hotels and golf courses around the world - should he be barred as a "foreigner"? Some Tesla owners can be truly disgusting.

 

[Gundo]

It's been said here before, but I tried the NACS post at one the new applegreen electric chargers on the NJTP yesterday (Molly Pitcher Service Area, northbound), and of course, their crazy looking NACS charger does not fit into the Cybertruck port....uggh.
Pricing is $0.40 per kWh, comparable to Tesla Superchargers in area at $0.38 per Kwh

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

It's been said here before, but I tried the NACS post at one the new applegreen electric chargers on the NJTP yesterday (Molly Pitcher Service Area, northbound), and of course, their crazy looking NACS charger does not fit into the Cybertruck port....uggh.
Pricing is $0.40 per kWh, comparable to Tesla Superchargers in area at $0.38 per Kwh

Crazy. Do you have a pic of this crazy looking plug? I thought the S stood for standard.

 

[carsly]

Crazy. Do you have a pic of this crazy looking plug? I thought the S stood for standard.

There are some pics on the site somewhere. It's basically a CCS -> NACS adapter glued onto a CCS handle

 

[EWELON]

There are some pics on the site somewhere. It's basically a CCS -> NACS adapter glued onto a CCS handle

correct. so if you want to charge there youll need the a2z adapter and youll use the ccs plug and your adapter. this one is on tesla for the charging door design.

 

[Vegetaban]

Residents of most states hardly ever use the superchargers in their own states, with Texas and California being major exceptions. Especially in a state like NJ, hardly any state resident is affected by this, as they charge at home and can get pretty much anywhere in the state and back without charging.

This mostly affects out of state road trippers. Last week I drove my CT with a large trailer from Maryland to upstate NY, including going the length of the NJ Turnpike, had no issues.

This is a tempest in a teapot, and really shows some members here to be xenophobes. They decry franchising the NJTP rest stops to a foreign company, meanwhile US companies run rest stops and hotels all over the EU, and the majority of Tesla unit sales are outside the United states. People who say that a foreign-owned company should be barred from consideration to run these functions should be ashamed. Donald Trump owns hotels and golf courses around the world - should he be barred as a "foreigner"? Some Tesla owners can be truly disgusting.

Why rip out what's working instead of adding additional options. Makes no sense other than this new company giving kickbacks to NJ. Doesn't matter if its a foreign EV charging company or a domestic one. It doesn't serve the citizen.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Why rip out what's working instead of adding additional options. Makes no sense other than this new company giving kickbacks to NJ. Doesn't matter if its a foreign EV charging company or a domestic one. It doesn't serve the citizen.

I generally agree that more charging pylons is better, but business is business. Your comment about bribes is where conspiracy theories come from - zero evidence. The REALITY is that Tesla lost out in a normal competitive bidding situation.

No business, regardless of where situated or based, is going to contract to provide a service at a specific geographic location without an exclusive contract. That is basic. It does make sense, notwithstanding your factless suspicion.

I have investments in shopping centers throughout the country, with every lease having exclusivity clauses - precluding me from adding another fast food competitor, or grocer, for example, without every other tenant approving in writing.

The NJ Turnpike is a closed environment - far more so than most other U.S. tollways - because it has, of necessity, so many access points, being in a high-population spot. Every business operating there is effectively a partner with the state - the state channels in every customer, and has a stake in the quality of the amenities provided along the way.

I much prefer Tesla Superchargers, but given that NJ is now providing NACS charging at competitive rates, I don’t think we’ve lost much here, especially after my recent CT drive through NJ towing a heavy trailer - I did get off to use a Supercharger, but given new information about the replacement system having higher charge rates than Superchargers, and NACS plugs, will likely charge at the replacements when returning southward at the end of next week.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

correct. so if you want to charge there youll need the a2z adapter and youll use the ccs plug and your adapter. this one is on tesla for the charging door design.

What evidence do you have for this? I’ll be using it next week, assuming their version of NACS fit my CT.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

correct. so if you want to charge there youll need the a2z adapter and youll use the ccs plug and your adapter. this one is on tesla for the charging door design.

I just called Applegreen and they call BS - their NACS plugs should work with CTs. However, they cannot charge any Tesla made before 2020. That’s apparently due to a more modern communications protocol. Just like generation 1&2 Superchargers cannot charge non-Tesla EVs. Standardization is coming, but we are in transition.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Why rip out what's working instead of adding additional options. Makes no sense other than this new company giving kickbacks to NJ. Doesn't matter if its a foreign EV charging company or a domestic one. It doesn't serve the citizen.

Let me speak more slowly. Tesla had an early, temporary and test contract to install Superchargers on the NJTP. They never installed any Magic Dock superchargers there. Tesla offered to rip out every one of their existing charging pylons when making the recent bid, and replace them with the latest versions - so it was going to happen anyway, whether with Tesla or a new contractor. The main difference here is that Tesla could not meet the specific bidding requirement that the new provider must be able to fast-charge any EV with such capability. That is objectively reasonable unless you are a Tesla fanboi.

 

[EWELON]

I just called Applegreen and they call BS - their NACS plugs should work with CTs. However, they cannot charge any Tesla made before 2020. That’s apparently due to a more modern communications protocol. Just like generation 1&2 Superchargers cannot charge non-Tesla EVs. Standardization is coming, but we are in transition.

I was physically present on the njt the other day, and the (single admittedly) nacs plug that I tried was too short to get past the wheel flares on my CT. do what you like, but with out an adapter like this:

https://a2zevshop.com/products/ccs-thunderstorm-max

you run the risk of having to exit the turnpike to charge at a tesla supercharger off the turnpike. not a huge deal, but I wouldnt enter the turnpike with less than 10%? charge just to be safe.

vaya con dios my friend

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