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I know that area a bit. I am on the fence of vehicle ABS issue in OffRoad mode or overdriving the truck for the terrain. Data will tell. I do know that on those slopes (and there are steep areas with fall away angles) the roads can have the surface of ball bearings with loose materials. There's lots of ICE trucks that have met bad outcomes up there, especially on the back way up to Crown King. That is rough country.
 

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Note: It was painful to watch the truck been dragged with the rear right wheel locked.
That was probably the only thing keeping the CT from dragging them down the hill :LOL:
 

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I'll need the dashcam footage at minimum before I believe that guys story. I've taken mine on a long steep downgrade and gained several battery % points.

I think he's not telling the whole truth here.

Also, never-ever-ever assume a tow truck driver is going to perform the correct procedures when recovering a downed Tesla. Maybe he didn't have a dolly that works off-road (should get one if you plan to recover on OHV trails), but I bet he added a cooked drive motor to the list of damages.
 

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I'll need the dashcam footage at minimum before I believe that guys story. I've taken mine on a long steep downgrade and gained several battery % points.

I think he's not telling the whole truth here.

Also, never-ever-ever assume a tow truck driver is going to perform the correct procedures when recovering a downed Tesla. Maybe he didn't have a dolly that works off-road (should get one if you plan to recover on OHV trails), but I bet he added a cooked drive motor to the list of damages.
He probably believes his own story, because he FAFO'ed and panicked. It happens.

They never would have even gotten the frunk open without internet access to Google lol. (As soon as I saw the owner remove the HEPA cover, I thought "yep, first-timer".). Shortly into ownership, I disconnected the MV battery and practiced the jump-start procedure to ensure I could do it.

I doubt the motors were damaged at the low speed they were crawling, but I'm pretty sure it's totaled anyway. At minimum it needs pyro fuses, airbags, cantrails, and most of the glass. At least the PCS is still worth $500 on eBay :LOL:
 


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The owner claims it when into a unmitigated roll downhill. Brakes and regen were ineffective. They turned into the wall to avoid going faster and off a cliff. I cant imagine what would cause both brakes and regen to fail at the same time.

Edit: They stated in video that in offroad mode regen is disabled. Is that true?
I believe it is, at least in one of the modes
 

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Tesla should invent neutral gear. It would make towing easier.
They have it on the Semi, sort-of. There's a clutch between a motor and one of the axles, so they can disconnect one motor at cruising speed for efficiency.

But all other Teslas (and EVs in general) have the motors fixed to the shafts. If the wheels are turning, the motor is turning, too.

Big deal, rite? The motor is always turning when I drive! Except, when powered off, there is no active cooling. Both friction and magnetic eddy currents will contribute to heat, damaging components. When permanent magnets hit a critical temperature, they cease to be permanent and demagnetize. And now you need a new drive unit.

They could equip other Tesla vehicles with a clutch, but why? It's just more weight and cost.
 

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They have it on the Semi, sort-of. There's a clutch between a motor and one of the axles, so they can disconnect one motor at cruising speed for efficiency.

But all other Teslas (and EVs in general) have the motors fixed to the shafts. If the wheels are turning, the motor is turning, too.

Big deal, rite? The motor is always turning when I drive! Except, when powered off, there is no active cooling. Both friction and magnetic eddy currents will contribute to heat, damaging components. When permanent magnets hit a critical temperature, they cease to be permanent and demagnetize. And now you need a new drive unit.

They could equip other Tesla vehicles with a clutch, but why? It's just more weight and cost.
Porsche does it.
 


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Not Worthy!

Just keep to the pavement or get a beater!

Tesla Cybertruck Upside down Cybertruck recovery video -- "Cyber Truck Turns Into A Teeter Totter After Losing All Its Brakes!" IMG_4252
 

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They have it on the Semi, sort-of. There's a clutch between a motor and one of the axles, so they can disconnect one motor at cruising speed for efficiency.

But all other Teslas (and EVs in general) have the motors fixed to the shafts. If the wheels are turning, the motor is turning, too.

Big deal, rite? The motor is always turning when I drive! Except, when powered off, there is no active cooling. Both friction and magnetic eddy currents will contribute to heat, damaging components. When permanent magnets hit a critical temperature, they cease to be permanent and demagnetize. And now you need a new drive unit.

They could equip other Tesla vehicles with a clutch, but why? It's just more weight and cost.
I feel like a need a towing course…

I also feel like Tesla needs to learn how to save power better. Like some sort of computer-not battery that doesn’t go dead right away.
 

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For Wh/mi, Tesla is very efficient. But for standby use, they use a shockingly high amount of power.
I think that’s by design. They had to borrow a lot of money to put in superchargers. In 10 years after that’s paid off they’ll have better range and lower power draw to make a better product rather than provide a subsidy to the charging network.
 
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For standby use, they use a shockingly high amount of power.
All the Tesla should have an Unlocked Doors Sleeping mode where you could open the doors or the trunk without waking up the vehicle, like when your car is parked in your garage or when doing camping. Something possible with any ICE car who is left unlocked.

One issue is that there is no manual switch beside the pressing the brake pedal. So the navigation screen needs to be turned on to control any features. But because the 12V Li-Ion battery has a very small capacity, the DC/DC inverter needs to be running.

So everytime you open a door the car starts to get about 300W of consumption.

Note:the DC/DC inverter runs for another 10 minutes after you close all the doors or trunk.
I don't see the need of it because when the inverter is running, the battery get charged
and doesn't provide any energy.

Note: I noticed that when I open the passenger door or the trunk, the screen stays dark,
so this might help with the consumption. I should test this using Scan My Tesla.
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