Cybertruck wh/mi efficiency numbers (comparison chart vs competiton)

[Roy2001]

The table at Electrek should be Wh/km:

Pickup Model/Variant	50 mph	70 mph
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (21″)	151 Wh/km	233 Wh/km
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (22″)	172 Wh/km	258 Wh/km
Rivian R1T All-Terrain Dual Motor Large Pack (20″)	184 Wh/km	273 Wh/km
Tesla Cybertruck AWD (20″)	161 Wh/km	272 Wh/km
Tesla Cybertruck Beast (20″)	168 Wh/km	278 Wh/km
Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT (18″)	188 Wh/km	300 Wh/km
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum (22″)	177 Wh/km	303 Wh/km
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Tri-Motor (22″)	218 Wh/km	378 Wh/km

I converted it to Wh/mi:

Pickup Model/Variant	50 mph	70 mph
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (21″)	243 Wh/mi	375 Wh/mi
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (22″)	276 Wh/mi	415 Wh/mi
Rivian R1T All-Terrain Dual Motor Large Pack (20″)	296 Wh/mi	439 Wh/mi
Tesla Cybertruck AWD (20″)	259 Wh/mi	438 Wh/mi
Tesla Cybertruck Beast (20″)	270 Wh/mi	447 Wh/mi
Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT (18″)	302 Wh/mi	483 Wh/mi
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum (22″)	285 Wh/mi	488 Wh/mi
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Tri-Motor (22″)	351 Wh/mi	608 Wh/mi

 

[Roy2001]

hmm, this is more like CT info instead of CT vs competition...

 

[scottf200]

Thank you for that. I threw it in a Gsheet and conditional formatted that. Also sorted by 70 mph.

 

[Gurule92]

hmm, this is more like CT info instead of CT vs competition...

It's literally a table of CT and competition though lol

 

[Nabilriaz69]

Tesla Cybertruck AWD (20″)

259 Wh/mi

438 Wh/mi

yes that is within range my Model X Raven , gives 350 wh / mile, it is mainly summer driving

 

[anionic1]

No surprise. As i said before the CT didnt have efficiency as its main design target. If you have seen the engineering that goes into a rivian its incredible- not revolutionary like Tesla, but still amazing. The fact that they are only losing $30+K per truck is impressive.

 

[ÆCIII]

The Cybertruck's numbers look great, especially for weighing 6800 lbs and having motors that will accelerate it faster than a Model 3 Performance.

The energy inefficient numbers of the GM Hummer don't surprise me either, considering it has about 2600 lbs more weight than the Cybertruck.

- ÆCIII

 

[Keeney]

Its not magic. Its just tradeoffs.
Frontal area is what kills efficiency at speed.
The Lightning frontal area is all about having a much roomier cab (as does the Hummer). Its one of the hallmarks of a full sized truck. Larger bed with a bigger tailgate, etc. Rivian and CT are going to be smaller inside. More like mid-sized trucks or mid-sized SUVs.

 

[Gurule92]

Its not magic. Its just tradeoffs.
Frontal area is what kills efficiency at speed.
The Lightning frontal area is all about having a much roomier cab (as does the Hummer). Its one of the hallmarks of a full sized truck. Larger bed with a bigger tailgate, etc. Rivian and CT are going to be smaller inside. More like mid-sized trucks or mid-sized SUVs.

Isn't CT bed bigger than lightning?

 

[cvalue13]

Isn't CT bed bigger than lightning?

not really, no

in volume, to the equivalent of the tailgate height rectangular box, the Lightning is bigger

Tesla’s bed volume figure includes some calculation including the sails under the tonneau, and comes out with a bit more volume than the lightning

but throw a camper shell on a Lightning it it’s jumps way in front of the CT again

Tesla’s stutter about the 6’ bed is true (at the floor), but misleading in the sense of describing both the volume and utility of the CT bed. It has materially less volume than a traditional full sized bed design that’s 6’ long, and materially less cargo room.

and again, if we’re gonna count enclosed space with the tonneau covered, we should arguably be comparing a traditional bed with a camper shell

 

[Gurule92]

not really, no

in volume, to the equivalent of the tailgate height rectangular box, the Lightning is bigger

Tesla’s bed volume figure includes some calculation including the sails under the tonneau, and comes out with a bit more volume than the lightning

but throw a camper shell on a Lightning it it’s jumps way in front of the CT again

Tesla’s stutter about the 6’ bed is true (at the floor), but misleading in the sense of describing both the volume and utility of the CT bed. It has materially less volume than a traditional full sized bed design that’s 6’ long, and materially less cargo room.

and again, if we’re gonna count enclosed space with the tonneau covered, we should arguably be comparing a traditional bed with a camper shell

What happens if they both have camper shells? Also, are you considering the prison pocket?

 

[cvalue13]

What happens if they both have camper shells? Also, are you considering the prison pocket?

The prison pocket comes into play only if one with a camper shell is a’ rockin

 

[Art O'Connor]

The table at Electrek should be Wh/km:

Pickup Model/Variant	50 mph	70 mph
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (21″)	151 Wh/km	233 Wh/km
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (22″)	172 Wh/km	258 Wh/km
Rivian R1T All-Terrain Dual Motor Large Pack (20″)	184 Wh/km	273 Wh/km
Tesla Cybertruck AWD (20″)	161 Wh/km	272 Wh/km
Tesla Cybertruck Beast (20″)	168 Wh/km	278 Wh/km
Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT (18″)	188 Wh/km	300 Wh/km
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum (22″)	177 Wh/km	303 Wh/km
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Tri-Motor (22″)	218 Wh/km	378 Wh/km

I converted it to Wh/mi:

Pickup Model/Variant	50 mph	70 mph
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (21″)	243 Wh/mi	375 Wh/mi
Rivian R1T Performance Dual Motor Max Pack (22″)	276 Wh/mi	415 Wh/mi
Rivian R1T All-Terrain Dual Motor Large Pack (20″)	296 Wh/mi	439 Wh/mi
Tesla Cybertruck AWD (20″)	259 Wh/mi	438 Wh/mi
Tesla Cybertruck Beast (20″)	270 Wh/mi	447 Wh/mi
Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT (18″)	302 Wh/mi	483 Wh/mi
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum (22″)	285 Wh/mi	488 Wh/mi
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Tri-Motor (22″)	351 Wh/mi	608 Wh/mi

So, what I am reading in this table is that Rivian is most efficient, then CT, then Chev, etc. BUT, Rivian is significantly smaller, CT is bigger and Chev is bigger still. What is missing in this table is the battery size and range. Chev currently has the most range, as tested by C&D & R&T and others, at 450 miles. So, it must have a bigger battery than others. Supposedly, Tesla is going to bring out something called a "Range Extender". Rumor is it is a software thing. Cost unknown. Really? You are going to sell me a short range CT, but , if I give you more money you will allow me to use all the battery I paid for? But it will still be less than the 500 you promised me that would not require a "Range Extender"? Chev has a mid-gate. Not CT. Only 11,000 lbs. towing? What happened to the other ton and a half that was promised? CT is a Road Queen, not a real truck.

 

[Roy2001]

So, what I am reading in this table is that Rivian is most efficient, then CT, then Chev, etc. BUT, Rivian is significantly smaller, CT is bigger and Chev is bigger still. What is missing in this table is the battery size and range. Chev currently has the most range, as tested by C&D & R&T and others, at 450 miles. So, it must have a bigger battery than others. Supposedly, Tesla is going to bring out something called a "Range Extender". Rumor is it is a software thing. Cost unknown. Really? You are going to sell me a short range CT, but , if I give you more money you will allow me to use all the battery I paid for? But it will still be less than the 500 you promised me that would not require a "Range Extender"? Chev has a mid-gate. Not CT. Only 11,000 lbs. towing? What happened to the other ton and a half that was promised? CT is a Road Queen, not a real truck.

I don’t think GM will ever sell 450 mile range truck.

 

[anionic1]

So, what I am reading in this table is that Rivian is most efficient, then CT, then Chev, etc. BUT, Rivian is significantly smaller, CT is bigger and Chev is bigger still. What is missing in this table is the battery size and range. Chev currently has the most range, as tested by C&D & R&T and others, at 450 miles. So, it must have a bigger battery than others. Supposedly, Tesla is going to bring out something called a "Range Extender". Rumor is it is a software thing. Cost unknown. Really? You are going to sell me a short range CT, but , if I give you more money you will allow me to use all the battery I paid for? But it will still be less than the 500 you promised me that would not require a "Range Extender"? Chev has a mid-gate. Not CT. Only 11,000 lbs. towing? What happened to the other ton and a half that was promised? CT is a Road Queen, not a real truck.

GM figured out the double stack battery for the hummer. I am sure they will use the same platform with the Silverado. Tesla should have and my bet would be they will go that route in the future. Tesla sometimes fights what the world wants and often compromises. A 40+ kw battery in the bed of the truck is not it.