Cybertruck Megacharger compatibility possible? After Megacharger stall for smaller vehicles spotted

[swengl]

There will be a number of surprises/differences between the beta protos we’ve seen to date and the production vehicle.

So, it’s not impossible that we’ve not seen a 8-10” square charge port on the betas to date.

that said….

… where the hell would it be?

Good question about the location. I would think that if they did put both charging ports on the CT, they would do it in a way that would be most convenient and easy to install/maintain/access. Maybe they put the Megacharger port in the body near the other port and depending on which connector you use, the appropriate door opens? It seems like the MW charging port and the standard NACS port would be too big to put behind one door (or on the rear wheel fender).

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[cvalue13]

So, about the size of a CCS port but closer to a square cross-section form factor.

yes though that still implicates something like an 8" port door, more like a Lightning et al's than the thing we see on the CT's fender flare?

 

[RyanJBuell]

There will be a number of surprises/differences between the beta protos we’ve seen to date and the production vehicle.

So, it’s not impossible that we’ve not seen a 8-10” square charge port on the betas to date.

that said….

… where the hell would it be?

I like the plain black MCU lettering on the bottom.

 

[rlindabury]

If you have a mobile adapter that will work. Won't be the fastest but you'll be fine

Yup! That's what I currently use for my Model 3. I may upgrade one circuit to 60Amp and use a Tesla Wall Connector or whatever they provide when the time comes. Thanks!

 

[scottf200]

I'm just wondering what I'll be using to charge the CT with at home. I have two 240v 50amp circuits setup and I have two NEMA 14-50 outlets at my garage. Hopefully this will suffice.

The beauty of Teslas is that, with the appropriate mobile charger connector, you can plug into multiple sources (other than Superchargers). I frequently top off mine when I travel by plugging the mobile charger into a simple 110V outlet. The rate of charge will, of course, be impacted by the amperage supported by the plug, but if you have NEMA 14-50s you should be good to go.

No doubt one NEMA 14-50 is what it would take.

Or their 44 MPH Wall Connector
"Wall Connector is compatible with Model S, Model 3, Model X and Model Y and is capable of providing up to 44 miles of range per hour of charge, with up to 11.5 kW / 48 amp output, depending on model."

Depending on the CT battery size and efficiency those 30 and 44 miles of range per hour will change ... but multiple 10 hrs of overnight charging and that is a LOT of daily miles (plus on the job site V2L help).

 

[rlindabury]

The beauty of Teslas is that, with the appropriate mobile charger connector, you can plug into multiple sources (other than Superchargers). I frequently top off mine when I travel by plugging the mobile charger into a simple 110V outlet. The rate of charge will, of course, be impacted by the amperage supported by the plug, but if you have NEMA 14-50s you should be good to go.

I have the UMC and I had the electrical contractor install the proper cable for 60amp direct to a Tesla Wall Connector if I feel I want one. So far the NEMA 14-50 outlets to my Model 3 Performance are absolutely fine. I rarely charge at Superchargers and charge at home. Thanks for the info!

 

[SONNYDUT]

It's easy for Tesla to update this, same as magic adapter plug. When the CT delivered to the mass of course.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Do you think there will be an adapter or possibly that the Cybertruck will have 2 ports for charging in order to support a connection to the Megacharger?

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-megacharger-prompts-cybertruck-compatibility-speculations/

The Megacharger sighted at Baker, California is quite interesting since the space it was installed in seemed like it was intended for smaller vehicles like the Cybertruck. Interestingly enough, CEO Elon Musk and Semi truck engineering executive Dan Priestley noted during the vehicle’s first delivery event last December that Tesla had developed a MW charger that could be used for both the Semi and the Cybertruck.

Of all of the Cybertrucks seen so far there is only 1 charging port and it is the normal one. Are you asking whether there might be another charging port, say in the frunk, that would use this kind of connector? That is the only place on the truck we haven't seen any real detail as of yet.

 

[AlDente]

If the Cybertruck can use this charger and it's proprietary connector, one upside might be not having to deal with all the new NACS enabled BEV's.

That said, the lack of serious production numbers for the Semi makes this seem at best, unlikely. For road trips I'll be happy with 250/350kW Version 3/4 chargers for the Cybertruck and my measly 11kW/or 40miles per hour Tesla Wall Connector at home.

 

[Albern]

For those of you who have asked, Tesla is adopting MCS for Semi (maybe CT?). From what I recall though, the updated connector is triangular as shown:

The square one is V2 while triangular is V3.

As far as CT is concerned, the inlet is a lot smaller and maybe could fit where we're seeing the NACS inlet on the left-rear fender.

Sources:
https://insideevs.com/news/592360/megawatt-charging-system-mcs-launch/
https://www.charin.global/technology/mcs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megawatt_Charging_System

 

[sstevens805]

Since we like to name/rename things on this forum, I move that we rename this charger to BBC (Big Black Cable) so that we can distinguish it from the current charging cable. Do we have a second?

 

[CyberGus]

"Mega-NACS"?

 

[anionic1]

I'm just wondering what I'll be using to charge the CT with at home. I have two 240v 50amp circuits setup and I have two NEMA 14-50 outlets at my garage. Hopefully this will suffice.

It seems like you have plenty of available power close to what the current Wall Connector puts out. At this point it looks like that 11kW is the highest and that's already at 49 amps with a 60 amp breaker. If the CT does come with a larger charger option a lot of people are going to have to make major electrical modifications. The original Tesla wall connector put out 80 amps and you can find them on ebay and amazon for over $1k link. That would probably be your simplest way to get max power at home if the CT will support the 80 amp charger. I dont know if the new tesla solar to vehicle option will allow more power through some special connector (like solar edge has) but you would have to have a 20kW solar system to hit near 80 amps and 99% of solar installations are well below that.

I put one of these RV subpanels on the side of my house by my driveway with 125 amps of power to it. It has a 30 amp and a 50 amp plug in it from the factory and I can add a larger connection right to it so if tesla does come out with a larger charger for the CT I am ready- link. It has additional available breaker space on it already. And I can lock it so if I do plug in a charger, someone would have to cut the live cable or the lock to steel the charger.

 

[Crissa]

Do you think there will be an adapter or possibly that the Cybertruck will have 2 ports for charging in order to support a connection to the Megacharger?

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-megacharger-prompts-cybertruck-compatibility-speculations/

The Megacharger sighted at Baker, California is quite interesting since the space it was installed in seemed like it was intended for smaller vehicles like the Cybertruck. Interestingly enough, CEO Elon Musk and Semi truck engineering executive Dan Priestley noted during the vehicle’s first delivery event last December that Tesla had developed a MW charger that could be used for both the Semi and the Cybertruck.

That's not a new charger.

This looks like someone playing with AI composting images or just plopping a retired Frito-Lay charger on the ground at another charger.

We have never seen a pedestal just sitting on the ground like this; the poses are all the same as prior shots of the MCS charger, only the background is different.

-Crissa

 

[anionic1]

Is this assumption incorrect? Smi has more batteries than CT so you can dump more power into the pack in one minute to reach individual cell limit. If CT does not have enough cells to take advantage, does it even make sense to put the female for mega Charger on it?

It would seem that if tesla potentiallly has double the model y battery pack . Assuming they are stacked, which could be a wild guess. And the current Y can take up to 250 kW on certain models, you would think that potentially the CT could take up to 500. The adapter is really the tough part, because 99% of the chargers out there are the NACS connector so it would need that at least and we have seen it with that female charger. I can't imagine tesla is going to be big on having you need an adapter for one of their vehicles. This really is a puzzle. Would they put two female ports on the vehicle? Can the NACS be physically modified to accept 500kW. I think the F150 maxes out at 175 kW and the Rivian double that at 350 kW. You can't really put an adapter on a NACS that bumps it up to L4 unless the NACS plug is modified to physically handle it. But that does seem like the simplest solution. Manufacture the CT with a NACS plug that can handle the L4 charger input of greater than 250 kW. lets say 350-500 kW for fun. Then include an adapter for the L4 chargers to connect. I still have a hard time believing this will be what they do, but I really don't see them putting two female ports on the CT. That's a lot of wasted material and weight.

Currently at L3 max of 250 kW if the LR CT does have a 175 kW battery it will be about 1.5 hrs to fully charge. I dont get the feel that Tesla is really pushing to make the CT a long haul vehicle so really they may be fine with that and if people are making long hauls and need that 400-450 mile range they are probably fine with a 1.5 hr 0-full charge time. I have noted that tesla has not been promoting higher mileage or the camper that Elon mentioned so I could be right.

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