FSD V14 (v14.1.5) for CYBERTRUCK! See 2025.38.8.5 Update Release Notes

[Jhodgesatmb]

Voice control. “Slow down” “hey, go a bit faster please? Im in a hurry” kind of like yelling at your Uber driver. Personally, i will be disengaging and reporting the moment it speeds, and likely will be pressing the accelerator when it is going to slow.

+1 on voice control! I should have said voice interaction. I think we should be able to interact with Grok and Grok with FSD. I doubt Tesla will do it but being able to say “slow down” and have it happen makes more sense to me except if others in the car said it in some other context.

 

[CyberGus]

I'm just upset that Canadian CTs got left out in the dark with this rollout.

I hope my lighthearted ribbing was taken in the spirit it was intended.

 

[jahansolu]

You caught me bro.

 

[SCTesla]

Use report bug for this- this will be present whether fsd is engaged or not. I say “report incorrect mapped speed limit”

Bug report does not send the data to the fsd team.

 

[RoboTaxi]

Yep, it's 14.1.5 for CT. Just no ASS still.

Can’t wait to use ass and flip my truck off as it comes to pick me up.

 

[REM]

Voice control. “Slow down” “hey, go a bit faster please? Im in a hurry” kind of like yelling at your Uber driver. Personally, i will be disengaging and reporting the moment it speeds, and likely will be pressing the accelerator when it is going to slow.

We will eventually be able to do that for sure. Providing context to FSD from voice is a late stage development milestone.

 

[dalton108]

Can’t wait to use ass and flip my truck off as it comes to pick me up.

Video or it didn’t happen! I’m doing this too!!

“Now you too can get the feeling of being a total psychopath!”

 

[bg002h]

You do realize how insane it is for Tesla to be planning not to allow speed control with FSDU, right? Do they plan on being responsible for every instance of a speeding ticket for the dumb computer system choosing to drive over the limit? This is a bone-headed approach. They need to allow control. The system doesn’t accurately handle the presence of cops parked on the side of the freeway with radars etc. Or complex construction situations or (all of) the places it gets the speed limit wrong either upwards or downwards (such as suddenly thinking it’s 55 in 65 zones). This is a real stupid idea. Their liability for thousands upon thousands of speeding tickets once unsupervised drops, if they don’t allow speed limit to be chosen by the user, is just astonishingly nearsighted. By allowing speed to be chosen, they can still blame the user. With the machine choosing everything including when to speed, that’s legally going to be a liability for Tesla.

The law doesn’t care about software. You are the vehicle operator, regardless of software, if you’re sitting in the driver seat.

 

[EctoSlymer]

The law doesn’t care about software. You are the vehicle operator, regardless of software, if you’re sitting in the driver seat.

That’s not true once it goes unsupervised. The whole point of unsupervised is that you no longer legally have to pay attention because you are not the liable operator.

 

[bg002h]

That’s not true once it goes unsupervised. The whole point of unsupervised is that you no longer legally have to pay attention because you are not the liable operator.

Source? Seems doubtful.

People get arrested for drunk driving if they pull over to sleep it off while laying down in a filly reclined driver seat even if the engine is off with the key in the ignition to keep the radio on…

That said, if software legally becomes the operator, then those convicted of drunk driving will be permitted back on the roadway as they’re only forbidden from operating vehicles, but not from being passengers.

 

[JCERRN]

Bug report does not send the data to the fsd team.

No but its a map issue not an fsd issue i think

 

[TyPope]

Source? Seems doubtful.

People get arrested for drunk driving if they pull over to sleep it off while laying down in a filly reclined driver seat even if the engine is off with the key in the ignition to keep the radio on…

That said, if software legally becomes the operator, then those convicted of drunk driving will be permitted back on the roadway as they’re only forbidden from operating vehicles, but not from being passengers.

So... no robotaxi? Am I the operator in a car with no steering wheel?

 

[EctoSlymer]

Source? Seems doubtful.

People get arrested for drunk driving if they pull over to sleep it off while laying down in a filly reclined driver seat even if the engine is off with the key in the ignition to keep the radio on…

That said, if software legally becomes the operator, then those convicted of drunk driving will be permitted back on the roadway as they’re only forbidden from operating vehicles, but not from being passengers.

Grok:


In fully unsupervised autonomous vehicles (often referred to as Level 4 or 5 autonomy, where no human intervention is required), the passenger is indeed not considered the operator under most current legal frameworks. This generally means they cannot be held directly responsible for traffic violations like speeding, as the vehicle’s AI system is in control. However, the exact handling of liability varies by jurisdiction and is still evolving as of 2025, with a mix of state-specific laws and practical enforcement challenges. Here’s a breakdown based on available information:


Key Legal Principles

• Shift in Responsibility: When a vehicle is operating in fully autonomous mode without a human driver, liability for violations typically moves to the entity responsible for the vehicle’s system—often the manufacturer, software developer, or owner/operator of the autonomous driving technology (e.g., companies like Waymo or Tesla). This is because the “driver” is effectively the AI, and faults could stem from software bugs, sensor errors, or design issues. 10 For instance, if speeding occurs due to a programming flaw, the manufacturer might face product liability claims or regulatory penalties rather than the passenger being ticketed.
• Accidents vs. Pure Violations: Much of the legal discussion focuses on accidents, where strict liability or a “reasonable human driver” standard may apply to hold manufacturers accountable if the AI fails to perform as a competent human would. 13 For non-accident violations like speeding (e.g., caught by a camera or officer), enforcement is trickier and often doesn’t result in traditional tickets.

Current Enforcement Realities

• Ticketing Challenges: In many areas, fully autonomous vehicles cannot be directly cited for moving violations under existing laws because there’s no human driver present to receive the ticket. 22 18 Police departments in places like California, Arizona, and Nevada have reported not issuing tickets to driverless cars due to the absence of a responsible person on site and difficulties in assigning fault to a company immediately. 24 Instead, incidents might be documented in reports, and companies could face civil or regulatory consequences later.
• State Variations:
  • California: As of 2025, driverless vehicles can’t be ticketed for violations, but a law effective in summer 2026 will introduce “notices of autonomous vehicle noncompliance” that owners must report to the DMV for oversight. 23
  • Texas and Arizona: The owner or operator of the automated system (which could be a corporation) is legally considered the “driver” and can be cited for violations, even without a human present. 23
  • Other States: At least 36 states plus D.C. have enacted some regulations on autonomous vehicles, including fines up to $2,500 for related violations in certain cases, but specifics on unsupervised operation are inconsistent. 21 Federal guidelines from NHTSA emphasize safety but don’t yet dictate uniform liability for tickets.
• Practical Implications for Passengers: You, as a passenger, wouldn’t reasonably be expected to monitor or intervene in full unsupervised mode, so personal responsibility is minimal. However, if the vehicle allows optional human control and you choose to override it, that could change things. Owners might still face indirect costs, like insurance hikes or lawsuits against manufacturers to recoup fines.

Future Outlook


Laws are adapting as more autonomous vehicles hit the roads—states like Arizona, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, and D.C. passed new rules in 2025 focusing on insurance, permitting, and safety. 11 Expect more clarity on ticketing as technology advances, potentially including automated enforcement tailored to AVs. 5 If you’re in a specific location or dealing with a real scenario, consulting local laws or a lawyer is advisable, as this isn’t settled uniformly yet.”

 

[bg002h]

So... no robotaxi? Am I the operator in a car with no steering wheel?

I’m not familiar with robotaxi design, but I would assume there is no driver seat.

The legal standard is the presumption you are driving the vehicle if you could be driving the vehicle. If you can’t be driving the vehicle (for example if there is no key in the ignition of an old school car, you’re not operating it). Provable inability to operate the vehicle would obviate restrictions on those forbidden to operate vehicles and prevent one from being held liable for crimes committed while being present in a vehicle they could not operate. And yes, this, like taxes and shooting people, will be a guilty until proven innocent situation where an affirmative defense must be made.

 

[bg002h]

Grok:


In fully unsupervised autonomous vehicles (often referred to as Level 4 or 5 autonomy, where no human intervention is required), the passenger is indeed not considered the operator under most current legal frameworks. This generally means they cannot be held directly responsible for traffic violations like speeding, as the vehicle’s AI system is in control. However, the exact handling of liability varies by jurisdiction and is still evolving as of 2025, with a mix of state-specific laws and practical enforcement challenges. Here’s a breakdown based on available information:


Key Legal Principles

• Shift in Responsibility: When a vehicle is operating in fully autonomous mode without a human driver, liability for violations typically moves to the entity responsible for the vehicle’s system—often the manufacturer, software developer, or owner/operator of the autonomous driving technology (e.g., companies like Waymo or Tesla). This is because the “driver” is effectively the AI, and faults could stem from software bugs, sensor errors, or design issues. 10 For instance, if speeding occurs due to a programming flaw, the manufacturer might face product liability claims or regulatory penalties rather than the passenger being ticketed.
• Accidents vs. Pure Violations: Much of the legal discussion focuses on accidents, where strict liability or a “reasonable human driver” standard may apply to hold manufacturers accountable if the AI fails to perform as a competent human would. 13 For non-accident violations like speeding (e.g., caught by a camera or officer), enforcement is trickier and often doesn’t result in traditional tickets.

Current Enforcement Realities

• Ticketing Challenges: In many areas, fully autonomous vehicles cannot be directly cited for moving violations under existing laws because there’s no human driver present to receive the ticket. 22 18 Police departments in places like California, Arizona, and Nevada have reported not issuing tickets to driverless cars due to the absence of a responsible person on site and difficulties in assigning fault to a company immediately. 24 Instead, incidents might be documented in reports, and companies could face civil or regulatory consequences later.
• State Variations:
  • California: As of 2025, driverless vehicles can’t be ticketed for violations, but a law effective in summer 2026 will introduce “notices of autonomous vehicle noncompliance” that owners must report to the DMV for oversight. 23
  • Texas and Arizona: The owner or operator of the automated system (which could be a corporation) is legally considered the “driver” and can be cited for violations, even without a human present. 23
  • Other States: At least 36 states plus D.C. have enacted some regulations on autonomous vehicles, including fines up to $2,500 for related violations in certain cases, but specifics on unsupervised operation are inconsistent. 21 Federal guidelines from NHTSA emphasize safety but don’t yet dictate uniform liability for tickets.
• Practical Implications for Passengers: You, as a passenger, wouldn’t reasonably be expected to monitor or intervene in full unsupervised mode, so personal responsibility is minimal. However, if the vehicle allows optional human control and you choose to override it, that could change things. Owners might still face indirect costs, like insurance hikes or lawsuits against manufacturers to recoup fines.

Future Outlook


Laws are adapting as more autonomous vehicles hit the roads—states like Arizona, Louisiana, Montana, Nevada, and D.C. passed new rules in 2025 focusing on insurance, permitting, and safety. 11 Expect more clarity on ticketing as technology advances, potentially including automated enforcement tailored to AVs. 5 If you’re in a specific location or dealing with a real scenario, consulting local laws or a lawyer is advisable, as this isn’t settled uniformly yet.”

This proves _my_ point. You just have to read carefully.