2 Cybertruck Exoskeleton Bodies Arrive at Giga Texas! * UPDATE * Elon Confirmed

[greggertruck]

What exactly did EM confirm about these packages? Nothing that I can tell.

They are still 4ft to short and 1.5ft not wide enough. Prove me wrong please.

Maybe you think it’s dumb but I think that’s what he was conforming like yea it’s Cybertruck stuff. Bodies? I hope so. We hope so. Did he specifically confirm that that’s bodies and they have my vin? Na.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

I wonder if they might limit the RWS to ~10 degrees on the street when the suspension is low and increase it to say 20 degrees with the suspension raised? The RWS could also be limited by speed.

It is a conjectural certainty (!!!) that Tesla will manage this in software.

 

[rlhamil]

It is a conjectural certainty (!!!) that Tesla will manage this in software.

Limits aside, AFAIK prior practice on other vehicles with four wheel steering has been to steer front and back opposite at slow speeds (shorter turning radius) and the same at higher speeds (move diagonally, as for a lane change). Presumably with something to avoid the latter in case of corners (although one would tend to be slower for those) or curves. A simplification would be to only use RWS in slow mode (opposite); I don't guess a Cybertruck really needs to match a Porsche on slalom.

 

[TyPope]

Sure. CT is way off being comparable in any way already though, just with the bullet proof stainless body or being amphibious alone. But that doesn't change how much the current design would be impacted by including a fold down midgate.

If it was me I'd get rid of the vault cover and replace it with a fixed glass cover that slides over the rear glass roof. Both the vault cover and the rear roof would be covered in solar PV then. Costs 1 piece of glass, and would be 100% water/dust proof, and would allow a midgate without most of the issues, except load debris. You'd also score a gear tunnel like the Rivian. But I don't see it happening atm, without a major redesign.

That's actually almost brilliant. I'm sure some will poopoo the idea but I agree about the Midgate issue. If the cover rolls THROUGH the midgate, you have to decide if you want the bed open or closed before folding down the midgate. People will argue for and against it. I, for one, wouldn't use the midgate for longer items as I'd just rather them hang out the back for as far as I'd be hauling them. If I had to chose between a slide-down rear window (to allow cooling back there) or a midgate, I wouldn't hesitate to pick the window.

 

[JBee]

I wonder if they might limit the RWS to ~10 degrees on the street when the suspension is low and increase it to say 20 degrees with the suspension raised? The RWS could also be limited by speed.

You would also have to limit suspension travel to do that, as the hard limit is when the wheel rubs against the body when the suspension is compressed over a bump.

RWS will actively switch between opposite angle whilst using high steering angles and parallel mode whilst using small steering angles at high speed.

 

[TyPope]

What exactly did EM confirm about these packages? Nothing that I can tell.

They are still 4ft to short and 1.5ft not wide enough. Prove me wrong please.

They probably aren't too short or to narrow. There is nothing in the picture on the exact plane as the side of the CT that we can use for measurement without some calculus. That 48" tote is approximately 6' in front of the CT bodies. If you hold your hand out in a thumbs up posture when you have your picture taken, it can make your thumb look longer than you are tall. That doesn't mean your thumb got large. The perspective is tricky.

Though, if you blow the picture up on your computer screen and measure the nearest cybertruck body to the tote, you'll get a ratio of 4.72 to 1. If the tote is 48", the CT Body would be (4.72 x 48") 226.56" At the reveal, they said it was 237.1" long. So, we are just 10.54" too short. And THAT distance is easily explained by that 6' difference in focal length. (We can't figure that out unless we know the drone's distance, camera zoom settings, and other crap)

 

[JBee]

That's actually almost brilliant. I'm sure some will poopoo the idea but I agree about the Midgate issue. If the cover rolls THROUGH the midgate, you have to decide if you want the bed open or closed before folding down the midgate. People will argue for and against it. I, for one, wouldn't use the midgate for longer items as I'd just rather them hang out the back for as far as I'd be hauling them. If I had to chose between a slide-down rear window (to allow cooling back there) or a midgate, I wouldn't hesitate to pick the window.

"Almost" was what I said as well when I saw the track testing videos of the CT that had the extended rear roof overhang the bed. That would have nearly allowed enough length to house the bed cover glass. A bit of tweaking to the roof apex would fix it though, it's only missing a few inches.

Midgate and vault cover just don't mix.

 

[TyPope]

"Almost" was what I said as well when I saw the track testing videos of the CT that had the extended rear roof overhang the bed. That would have nearly allowed enough length to house the bed cover glass. A bit of tweaking to the roof apex would fix it though, it's only missing a few inches.

Midgate and vault cover just don't mix.

I agree. The only way they would work is if the vault cover rolled up above the mid-gate. The window could then just roll into the mid-gate and the whole thing could fold forward. Unfortunately, with the sloping roofline, that isn't going to happen. After seeing Rivian's unfortunate tonneau cover issues, I hope Tesla makes something very robust. I'd trade gadgetry for robustness any day.

 

[JBee]

They probably aren't too short or to narrow. There is nothing in the picture on the exact plane as the side of the CT that we can use for measurement without some calculus. That 48" tote is approximately 6' in front of the CT bodies. If you hold your hand out in a thumbs up posture when you have your picture taken, it can make your thumb look longer than you are tall. That doesn't mean your thumb got large. The perspective is tricky.

Though, if you blow the picture up on your computer screen and measure the nearest cybertruck body to the tote, you'll get a ratio of 4.72 to 1. If the tote is 48", the CT Body would be (4.72 x 48") 226.56" At the reveal, they said it was 237.1" long. So, we are just 10.54" too short. And THAT distance is easily explained by that 6' difference in focal length. (We can't figure that out unless we know the drone's distance, camera zoom settings, and other crap)

Seeing there's more than one photo from different angles i can use some software to generate a 3D point cloud to measure it exactly. I only get 4.2 times the length of the tote. Which picture are you using?

 

[JBee]

I agree. The only way they would work is if the vault cover rolled up above the mid-gate. The window could then just roll into the mid-gate and the whole thing could fold forward. Unfortunately, with the sloping roofline, that isn't going to happen. After seeing Rivian's unfortunate tonneau cover issues, I hope Tesla makes something very robust. I'd trade gadgetry for robustness any day.

So to be clear, I'm proposing to completely remove the roll up vault cover and replace it with a glass sliding roof that stows on top of the rear roof of the cabin. Like a backwards moving glass sunroof for the bed.

The midgate could then be folded without any issues with the vault cover, but it would still have the other problems withnit being flat etc.

 

[TyPope]

So to be clear, I'm proposing to completely remove the roll up vault cover and replace it with a glass sliding roof that stows on top of the rear roof of the cabin. Like a backwards moving glass sunroof for the bed.

The midgate could then be folded without any issues with the vault cover, but it would still have the other problems withnit being flat etc.

Yes! the solar would be a LOT easier in that case as well. The only issue would be driving with that new tunnel you've created up there. But, this could be overcome as well, I suppose... Especially if there was some way to close that gap when the cover is open.

 

[TyPope]

Seeing there's more than one photo from different angles i can use some software to generate a 3D point cloud to measure it exactly. I only get 4.2 times the length of the tote. Which picture are you using?

I used the first one from Joe's Twitter feed which seemed to have the least distortion. I did it from work and don't have any advanced graphical software here. I suppose, I could just open the picture in something that allows for measurements. But, I'm satisfied that those are two bodies and that those are at Texas to help them establish the line... for fit and placement of stations.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

So to be clear, I'm proposing to completely remove the roll up vault cover and replace it with a glass sliding roof that stows on top of the rear roof of the cabin. Like a backwards moving glass sunroof for the bed.

The midgate could then be folded without any issues with the vault cover, but it would still have the other problems withnit being flat etc.

So you are building your own CT because the last I heard Elon said that the CT design was complete and that was months ago. We have not heard him say anything about the tonneau (or a midgate) but whatever the design is I suspect the first CT version design is pretty much baked.

 

[greggertruck]

So you are building your own CT because the last I heard Elon said that the CT design was complete and that was months ago. We have not heard him say anything about the tonneau (or a midgate) but whatever the design is I suspect the first CT version design is pretty much baked.

I really don't think the midgate is A fake or B hard to accomplish.

Tonneau people..

*edit* the site didn't let me format, so janky screenshot of my "idea" here.


Center "line" is Tonneau, feeds into a larger track in top above midgate. Which tapers back to a regular size. Allowing flexibility in reseal of midgate.

Just spit balling. Not that wild to think they can do both.

I really couldn't care less about it being a boat. I think it's a novelty and not a true FEATURE. That midgate makes sense from Camping, loading, and security perspectives. Just saying.

 

[Ogre]

Still exciting that maybe the Fremont team is moving to Texas and moving their stuff.

This is the first visible and obvious sign they are working on the truck assembly one in Texas.

We’ve know it was going on. We’ve seen things like preparing the gigapress area and suspected it was for the Cybertruck. But here we have visible parts which are pretty clearly for the truck assembly on site. Very cool.


Now where the F is that Gigapress @greggertruck promised us?

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