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Official Reveal: Slate Truck (Pickup / SUV). Priced Under $20K
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Why get this instead of a maverick?

It looks fun and cheap is great. I love my Cybertruck but for Teslas sake I wish they had a more standard SUV or big SUV.

But alot of what they took out is why I like EVs - actually I only like FSD and tolerate EVs. So not FSD and it isn't for me.
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Why get this instead of a maverick?
Possible advantages of the Slate:

- Slate could be cheaper, even with added options, if the EV tax credit stays.
- Slate could also be cheaper depending on tariff situation, since Maverick is made in Mexico.
- Some people might prefer to buy an American-made vehicle, regardless of tariffs.
- Some people might prefer an EV truck to an ICE/hybrid truck.
- Slate is shorter and more maneuverable, yet has longer bed (5' vs 4.5').
- Slate has more customization options.

But it's all hypothetical at this point. The Slate won't be available for delivery for 18 months at the earliest. Nobody can be sure what the tax credit situation or the tariff situation will be like at that point. Furthermore, nobody knows what the all the cool customization options for the Slate are actually going to cost. Nobody is going to buy the totally stripped "Blank Slate", so the real price of the Slate will be higher, but how much higher?

Check back in 18 months. Maybe the Slate will be an attractive alternative to the Maverick, or maybe not.
 
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I get the hype on this and I like it, but I had a maverick before and you can get still get those new for 30k. Now as something to differentiate from the crowds, I like it. But otherwise, you are better off with a maverick or santa cruze.
The Maverick and Santa Cruz both have internal combustion engines, right?

The only reason you are better off with those is because this will never make it to market, at least not with the listed pricing (or anything close to it).

The factory and tooling is going to cost billions (that they don't have yet). And the fact that it doesn't exist pretty much precludes a single truck coming off the line in 2027 as planned. By then the EV market will not even resemble today's market.

I don't think they are scammers, but that implies they are unrealistic dreamers that don't have any idea or realistic vision as to how to establish a new car company. I know it sounds harsh, but it constantly amazes me what passes for a viable business plan these days. Where did pragmatic common sense go? Or do they just not know anything?
 


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The factory and tooling is going to cost billions (that they don't have yet). And the fact that it doesn't exist pretty much precludes a single truck coming off the line in 2027 as planned.
Slate is finalizing a deal for an empty factory site in Indiana:
Slate Auto, the buzzy new EV startup that broke stealth this week, is close to locking in a former printing plant located in Warsaw, Indiana as the future production site for its cheap electric truck, a review of public records shows.

The company is expected to lease the 1.4 million-square-foot facility for an undisclosed sum. Economic development officials told local media earlier this year (without naming Slate) the factory could employ up to 2,000 people, and that the county offered the undisclosed company an incentive package.

It’s not immediately clear what that incentive package includes or if it has been finalized. Slate did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Peggy Friday, the CEO of the Kosciusko County Economic Development Corporation said in an email that she is “under a strict non-disclosure agreement with the project.”
Of course, even when the deal is closed, the factory will be totally empty. But setting up vehicle production may go faster than one might expect, because Slate will be using a lot of plastic instead of metal:
Slate Auto Is building the anti-gigafactory ... This truck is being sold as a repudiation of modern cars, which it is. More importantly, it’s a wholesale rethinking of modern carmaking. ...

The body panels are dent- and scratch-resistant injection molded polypropylene composite material. Basically, it’s plastic, just like the old Saturns. If you want color on your truck, you can just wrap it, or Slate Auto can wrap it for you. This is theoretically way simpler.

Vehicle factories tend to have high ceilings to make room for the multiple-story stamping machines that form metal body parts. Injection molding of plastic is far easier and cheaper to do in limited spaces — spaces like the factory that Slate has purchased for its manufacturing
Historically, the plastic bodies of Saturns were prone to brittleness and damage in cold weather, so hopefully modern composites are better in that regard. And they have the advantage of being of 100% rustproof. There is a perception that plastic bodies "look cheap", but who cares if you have a wrap?
 

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Is it just me, or does this feel like a great first car or running around town extra vehicle - assuming the safety ratings are high?
If they come in at or near the target price, then I agree. But we'll see.

They also claim to be targeting a 5-star crash rating. Again, we'll see.
 

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If they come in at or near the target price, then I agree. But we'll see.

They also claim to be targeting a 5-star crash rating. Again, we'll see.
Agreed, it's all vaporware today. Targets are nice, but they are not achieved results. Will save my $50 until they are a few months into production and I get a look at the service footprint.
 

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Slate is finalizing a deal for an empty factory site in Indiana:

Of course, even when the deal is closed, the factory will be totally empty. But setting up vehicle production may go faster than one might expect, because Slate will be using a lot of plastic instead of metal:
I don't see it that way. Tesla has already indicated they get much lower cost of production with greenfield factory builds. No existing factory footprint can meet all the needs of an EV maker.

Be aware that the Slate is proposed to be made of steel and high-strength steel. This means they will still need a paintshop and dunk tanks for rust resistance. That triggers the need for permits for painting, even though they will not be painting the body panels. In any case, Slate will need to renovate the building for their needs before installing production equipment. That will save about a year, but don't under-estimate how much work goes into setting up a facility to produce vehicles.

I stand by my assessment that Slate has provided an extremely unrealistic timeline for the start of production. It's sad that I know more about this than they do. Because many of their employees/management come from other automakers while I have no first-hand experience making automobiles.

There is a perception that plastic bodies "look cheap", but who cares if you have a wrap?
That's one reason why I'm not a fan of wraps (the "plasticky" look).
 
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I stand by my assessment that Slate has provided an extremely unrealistic timeline for the start of production. It's sad that I know more about this than they do. Because many of their employees/management come from other automakers while I have no first-hand experience making automobiles.
No one will be surprised if the delivery date slips. If so, it wouldn't be the first time that an EV truck manufacturer has blown a deadline. For example, when the Cybertruck was announced in late 2019, deliveries were supposed to start in late 2021, but of course it didn't happen until late 2023. My guess is that we won't have to wait four years for Slate deliveries, but we'll see.
 


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No one will be surprised if the delivery date slips. If so, it wouldn't be the first time that an EV truck manufacturer has blown a deadline. For example, when the Cybertruck was announced in late 2019, deliveries were supposed to start in late 2021, but of course it didn't happen until late 2023. My guess is that we won't have to wait four years for Slate deliveries, but we'll see.
I wouldn't mind if the project was on track for all but the date of deliveries, but it has bigger problems than that if it wants to amount to anything more than a historical footnote.
 

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