New Cybertruck Owner (First Tesla & New to Group) (Please Read)

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First off, welcome to the Tesla family and congrats on purchasing THE best vehicle made!

Some random thoughts:
  1. I echo other comments about trying to get a Tesla Wall Connector charger installed so you can plug it in every night.
    1. Note, you can also purchase the Tesla Mobile Connector and use that as your primary charger (this is designed to be used when traveling or as a permanent charger). For this, you'll need to install an outlet that offers 32A/240v power.
    2. You don't want to use a 15a or 20a / 120v outlet bc the charging will be SUPER slow (like days to charge the 80% of the battery). The CT battery is 123 kWh (i.e., it's massive).
  2. On delivery day, definitely look over the vehicle closely (panel alignment, etc.) and take pictures. You have 24-48 hours or (I think) 1,000 miles to take pics or vids and submit a service appointment (all done via the Tesla mobile app) for them to accept it without question.
  3. One common part that's damaged is the interior lining on the B pillor or the lining of the bottom of the rear opening (not on the door itself). They look like little cuts. Mine had it, and the delivery advisor told me it's bc the factory puts the hub caps in the rear floor and they cut into the lining during shipping.
    1. You can find pics of others posting this on these forums.
  4. Read the owners manual (and bookmark the service manual if you're interested in knowing how things are repaired / serviced).
Other than that, use these forums...we're all happy to help!
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Welcome!

The cant rail recall isn't a big thing. I haven't had the recall done yet, no parts flying off.

Phantom drain is at an all-time low. With sentry and cabin overheat off (situation: garage parking at home) I may lose 1% every 2-3 days checking the app once a day. You may lose more if you wake the vehicle up constantly but most of the time the app is opened the vehicle will stay asleep now unless you take an action requiring it to wake up - e.g., unlock, set climate, review sentry footage, etc. If you're plugged in nightly or even once or twice a week you'll likely not notice it at all.

Inventory discounts are available on 2024 models, just a standard industry practice for clearing out prior model year. You'll also find some demo discounts periodically.

It's an amazing machine.
 

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Just ordered my first ever Tesla (2024 Cybertruck AWD) saw a unit for immediate pickup with -$8K price adjustment. Now Tesla is telling me i can only pickup the unit in 5-7 Days so they can fix the Cantrail.

First Time Tesla owner so any recommendations and suggestions prior to pickup would be great.

Why would the unit be discounted at -$8K ?
How bad is the phantom battery drain ? (As i dont drive everyday and car will be sitting not plugged in)
Any thing specific i should ask or look for at time of pickup ?

Made the switch from a 2023 BMW X3 M40

Located in the Miami Area

Thank You In Advance :)

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Congrats on a new ride!
 

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Just ordered my first ever Tesla (2024 Cybertruck AWD) saw a unit for immediate pickup with -$8K price adjustment. Now Tesla is telling me i can only pickup the unit in 5-7 Days so they can fix the Cantrail.

First Time Tesla owner so any recommendations and suggestions prior to pickup would be great.

Why would the unit be discounted at -$8K ?
How bad is the phantom battery drain ? (As i dont drive everyday and car will be sitting not plugged in)
Any thing specific i should ask or look for at time of pickup ?

Made the switch from a 2023 BMW X3 M40

Located in the Miami Area

Thank You In Advance :)

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Welcome to the family! Phantom drain is negligible if sentry mode is off. My experience having left mine at the airport for a couple weeks at a time is that it drains maybe 1% per day and century mode is off. Century mode is on it drains about 5% per day.
 


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Here is a link to one of the engineers who helped tesla developed their batteries explaining how to increase the life of your cars batteries. Dr Jeff Dahn. It's an hour long video but has really good information about preserving your battery. After listening to the video, I'm pretty sure the batteries will last longer than the truck by following his recommendations.
What’s the Cliff Notes version of the video?
 

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What’s the Cliff Notes version of the video?
Keep your vehicle charged to 75% and charge every chance you get. If you need to store your vehicle in a hot environment, keep it at 30%. In his lab, the batteries lasted what would be well over 800k miles with those guidelines. Charging to 80 or 85% will still have your battery lasting a long time.
 

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Keep your vehicle charged to 75% and charge every chance you get. If you need to store your vehicle in a hot environment, keep it at 30%. In his lab, the batteries lasted what would be well over 800k miles with those guidelines. Charging to 80 or 85% will still have your battery lasting a long time.
Interesting. We don't keep our Teslas charged to 80% (or 75%) ever since we moved to a new house and were able to install a 60amp/240v charger, because it charges our vehicles so fast that we don't need to always plug it in. Plus, we try to use Charge on Solar as much as possible.

Sounds like we should try to keep the SoC highter than our usual (35-50%).
 

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I think the main thing w
Interesting. We don't keep our Teslas charged to 80% (or 75%) ever since we moved to a new house and were able to install a 60amp/240v charger, because it charges our vehicles so fast that we don't need to always plug it in. Plus, we try to use Charge on Solar as much as possible.

Sounds like we should try to keep the SoC highter than our usual (35-50%).
I think the main thing was frequent smaller charges are better than infrequent large charges. So charging from say 40 to 60% five times would be easier on a battery than single charge from 0 to 100%. He also mentioned that there is a change in the batteries when you go above 75% and i believe below 25%. The video explains things much better than i am but it is a bit long. Great information though. I might see if a transcript of the video is available and have a GPT summarize the recommendations.
 

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I think the main thing w

I think the main thing was frequent smaller charges are better than infrequent large charges. So charging from say 40 to 60% five times would be easier on a battery than single charge from 0 to 100%. He also mentioned that there is a change in the batteries when you go above 75% and i believe below 25%. The video explains things much better than i am but it is a bit long. Great information though. I might see if a transcript of the video is available and have a GPT summarize the recommendations.
Ah thanks.

It’s on my watch list…maybe I’ll try to listen to it when I’m on a long drive lol.
 


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What’s the Cliff Notes version of the video?
I might see if a transcript of the video is available and have a GPT summarize the recommendations.
Here's a summary of the video, as provided by YouTube:
  1. Intro (0:03-1:27): The video introduces the topic of maximizing EV battery life, emphasizing the importance of understanding battery degradation to promote healthy usage.
  2. Basics of Lithium-Ion Batteries (3:29-5:07): The presenter explains the components of a lithium-ion battery, including the negative electrode (graphite on copper) and positive electrode (lithium transition metal oxide on aluminum).
  3. Issues with Lithium-Ion Batteries (5:50-7:08): The video highlights challenges such as reactivity of electrode materials with the electrolyte and volume expansion/contraction during charging and discharging.
  4. Impact of Storage and Temperature (8:44-10:13): Storing batteries at high states of charge and high temperatures accelerates degradation due to increased reactivity between the positive electrode and electrolyte.
  5. Microcracking (15:18-18:56): The video identifies microcracking as a significant factor in battery degradation, particularly in positive electrode materials.
  6. Avoiding Microcracking (19:00-22:27): The presenter explains that using a lower depth of discharge (DOD) helps avoid microcracking.
  7. Single Crystal Positive Electrode Materials (26:36-31:40): The video introduces single crystal positive electrode materials as a solution to microcracking.
  8. High Nickel Content Materials (32:04-35:23): The video discusses the use of high nickel content materials to achieve longer driving ranges.
  9. Sodium-Ion Batteries (38:17-41:04): The presenter explores sodium-ion batteries as a potential alternative for long-term sustainability.
  10. Summary (41:04-42:47): The video summarizes key strategies to maximize battery lifetime, including maintaining lower states of charge, avoiding high temperatures, and considering battery chemistry.
 

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And from the summary at the end of the video:

  1. Li-ion cells degrade during storage at high temperature and at high states of charge. If you are going away in hot summer for a long time, leave your vehicle near 30%.
  2. Eliminate microcracking - stick to low SOC ranges (25% is awesome) - Difficult for people who cannot charge at home - THAT's OK - The battery will still outlast the car if you follow the next two rules.
  3. Eliminate oxygen release from high Ni materials - stay below 75% SOC when you can
  4. Eliminate the large volume change in high Ni materials - stay below 75% SOC when you can

Combining all of this together, assuming one does not know what kind of battery one has: Operating between 70% and 45% for the majority of the time is ideal. Store at 30% when going away for long times in summer.
 

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OK.
I’ll drop my usual SOC down from 80% to 75%.
Thanks for this!?
 

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OK.
I’ll drop my usual SOC down from 80% to 75%.
Thanks for this!?
For what it's worth, I used to daily charge my Model S to 80% but found with the Cybertruck charging to 70% was more than plenty due to its >20% larger battery and efficiency that was within 3-5% of the S Plaid. So lower charge level, less battery stress/aging and more available daily range. Win, win, win.
 

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Welcome!
#1 rule - Have fun
#2 - wave and smile at the haters (your living rent free in their heads)

Daily battery drain is not terrible. I left mine in an airport parking lot for a week (92%) and came back to about 30% charge. This was with everything on and me checking the app a couple times a day for battery.
It only had about 5 sentry events and the weather was not above 70 degrees.
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