Cybertruck vs F-150 Ownership Cost Comparison

[Administrator]

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[Old Spice]

Coolness and uniqueness of the Cybertruck = priceless (and that's coming from a current F-150 owners)!

 

[Administrator]

Here's a chart showing what a value the Cybertruck will be compared to a comparable F-150.

 

[Jon Snow]

Hmm .. you seem to have left out information. EVs shine in cost of ownership as well as performance. Run the math again with fuel savings, maintenance savings, and 3 X longer lifespan included .. and the EV comes out on top by an incredible margin. The dual motor and tri motor also btw.

 

[CarsBarsMars]

IIRC Tesla said the CT will be a medium duty vehicle classification comparable to an F-250. I know the chart is from early in the process, but I expect by the time the CT ships it will cost more but will still compare very favorably to a comparably equipped ford F-250.

 

[mggoulet]

So now, everyone will buy CT in Québec as we pay around $0.06 KWH and we pay $1.20 per liter=$4.54 per US gallon Notice that is in CAD money:
F150=>15,000/18 X $4.54=$3,783.33 VS CT=>15,000X500X$0.06/1000= $450.00 différence= $3,333.33 per year just for fuel VS KWH.

 

[Saskateam]

So now, everyone will buy CT in Québec as we pay around $0.06 KWH and we pay $1.20 per liter=$4.54 per US gallon Notice that is in CAD money:
F150=>15,000/18 X $4.54=$3,783.33 VS CT=>15,000X500X$0.06/1000= $450.00 différence= $3,333.33 per year just for fuel VS KWH.

I think you will also get incentives in Quebec when you buy and there is more infrastructure available. A different story here in Saskatchewan where we pay $0.14/kWh and the infrastructure is lacking and the government is not a fan. I will be one of the very few CT owners here. Our EV ownership is less than 100 in the province and maybe less than 50.

 

[mggoulet]

You see and now... you will know more about our politics problems: First, all the east coast had developped the westener... 2- the economy of saskatchewan is mostly by potash and petroleum and in Alberta is only with sand petroleum...In Québec, we have lithium, uranium, hydro=electricity, gold diamond, iron, mines with also gas and petroleum + industries in different areas... the perequation was made by
albertains... and our government does not want it as our économy is great... so, in the folfe du St-Laurent we have Old Harry resources of petroleum for 100 years that we do not now exploite...In your province, your government is more with petroleum and will never give you electricity car facility... Québec is providing more than 2/3 for Vermont need also for New-York city... and by the way in Mass... etc... We arrive to the end of the gas powerfull...Opep is trying to increase the price of the liter or the gallon of gas... our answer is with all electric car...Just remember that the reduction for Québec electric car is not over $60,000 and it is for $8,000 so with the on motor it could be on... but by the time we will get it... all government could abolish that subvention.

 

[Saskateam]

Still a good investment without incentives. The economics of an EV speak for them selves if you can see and listen. I can get the Tri-Motor for equal to what I am paying for a lesser vehicle, when I calculated in fuel and maintenance costs. Once the longevity of the CT is factored in it is a huge savings over the replacement costs every 5-6 years of the ICE vehicles I drive now.

 

[Sirfun]

The original post had TCO for 5 years of $53,000. That was is for a Dual motor, I would imagine single motor would be just a small margin more than a $38,900 model 3 which is roughly $35,000 for 5 years. Even if it's $40,000 for 5 years there aren't to many vehicles that can compare to that. None of them carry 6 adult men with a 100 cubic ft. of cargo space. And that's just over 5 years. The Cybertruck with 5 x15,000= 75,000 miles has a long life still!

 

[Dids]

Can someone explain why it's more expensive to tow with BEV than ICE but cheaper to operate. How can $/hp and $/torque and $/mile be lower but $/tow capacity be higher. Somewhere else I saw some discussion that towing wouldn't be economical due to the increased time of recharging but they ignored the opportunity cost in the calculation and where that break even is.

 

[CarsBarsMars]

You're correct on this to an extent. I dont think anyone realistically expects to use a CT for repeated long distance towing, or if they do they're able to tolerate a much higher level of bother than I am.

However if I were to use my CT for local towing...which I do almost every single day...Then I am comparing the cost to refuel my 17 mpg tow tractor (Lexus SUV) with a 300 mile range CT with a solar panel (+15 miles per day supposedly) That is a pretty simple equation, since it costs over $60 to fuel my tractor and about $20 to fill my CT on my local electric cost. (we dont have EV charging rates here or it might be as low as $8 to fill up) At that cost difference, and because I usually tow for about 30-80 miles per day while working, it is much more efficient for me to use the CT for towing and tolerate occasional charging periods where i drive the old tractor.

Also, after perusing the amout of aftermarket charging options, I am certain that a bed mounted or vault mounted surplus battery pack will arrive. And if there is a CyberTrailer....why wouldnt it have it's own battery pack and rooftop solar? Certainly it would be difficult to justify paying an extra $3000 for a typical cargo trailer, but there may be very real advantages for some users. For example I have a trailer which has a small woodshop built into it so I can work on site. Currently I use entirely battery powered tools except for a table saw. A 100' extenstion cord means on some sites I can plug in, and other times I use the engine on my tractor to run the onboard 120v plug for short term table saw use. A large on board battery pack would expand my 120v tool capability.

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