AWD Model vs Cyberbeast

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I would not trade my awd for a beast if someone offered a straight-up trade.
Really that doesn’t pass the logic test? Maybe you need to go for a ride in a BEAST. YOLO acceleration plus big smiles every time. $20k worth of more Joy.
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Lol not scared of "extra performance"

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There is more to performance than 0-60... The AWD truck gives me more than enough speed, I took it up to 110mph the other day and when I had to switch lanes I felt the truck was gonna flip over due to its weight and size.. Also, awd is quicker than 99% of trucks out there. I'll gladly take more range and reliability over a quicker 0-60 lol
That % will be quickly dropping as the Beast deliveries grow. Then how will you feel.
 

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That was my thought as well, I almost switched to AWD to get it sooner but talked myself out of that. No way I am letting a Raptor or TRX out accelerate my truck, that's literally one of the biggest selling points of an EV let alone the Cybertruck, that its so fast.
I’ve owned the Raptor and own (and will be keeping) the TRX, so my decision to go with the Beast is based on the fact that I already can do an ~4 second 0 to 60.

That said, if the Beast wasn’t an option there would still be ample reasons to buy an AWD CT IMHO.
 

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I’ve owned the Raptor and own (and will be keeping) the TRX, so my decision to go with the Beast is based on the fact that I already can do an ~4 second 0 to 60.

That said, if the Beast wasn’t an option there would still be ample reasons to buy an AWD CT IMHO.
I agree. If a Beast spec wasn't available, I'd still have bought the AWD version. But since there is a Beast that exists, no way I could have gone the minimal route when that option is available :D
 


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I reserved the Tri-Motor back in November 2019. Fastest and Longest Range was a no-brainer for me. Once it released and the AWD was being offered to show up between December 2023 - February 2024 and the "CyberBeast" said late 2024, I was not willing to wait another potential year. Also, the range was less than the AWD, so I said, "AWD is fast enough...faster in a straight line than my Corvette C7."

But I will say this...I recently had the Model X Plaid as a loaner and the acceleration is a noticeable increase over the AWD. Borderline scary. Instant smile each time. The Model X Plaid and the CyberBeast. While it was fun, it is not worth the $20,000 price premium in my opinion. If you have never driven a car that can go 0 to 60 mph in 2.6 second or less, then the AWD will be putting the same smile on your face each time you press that pedal.
 

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1. Extra cost
2. Less range
3. Extra weight
4. Will almost never use the extra 245hp and AWD 600hp is more than enough power for my driving
5. When I go to pick up my AWD and they offer to upgrade me to beast at no cost, I would probably choose the beast for resale value only.
6. I wouldn't get a beast even if it were barely priced above AWD.
This sounds like most any supercar or upgraded/special edition truck other than weight.
 

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I’m the type that if it’s something I really really want I don’t want the lower end. I learned having regrets on doing that in the past. Especially when you are already paying 100k for a lessor model.
 


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One misconception about the advantage of the Beast is that the extra power is just for acceleration.

INCORRECT.
And then you proceed to explain how the extra power really is just for acceleration. :ROFLMAO:

if you are planning to hook up an extended range battery (adding weight) and hook-up a heavy trailer (RV, boat, etc) you’ll definitely understand the benefits of the extra power when you are trying to maneuver in traffic. The laggy acceleration in the AWD with the added weight makes it borderline dangerous to try and pass other vehicles in trying to get to your off/on-ramps or just to improve your position on the highway.

with the Beast it almost feels like you don’t even have a trailer, whereas with the AWD you are begging for that extra “oomph” to make your maneuvers safely. The reduction in STRESS from having that added power at your disposal is a PURE LUXURY that you will not understand until you have experienced it.
This is a BS narrative that the Dual Motor would be dangerously underpowered for towing at its full rated amounts.

First of all, if you install an extended range battery with a heavy trailer, that will require a lighter trailer than the maximum load without the extended range battery (in order to remain within the various weight and tow limits of the Cybertruck). That means the most demanding case in terms of power needed, is a truck without the extended range battery, but fully loaded with trailer and cargo. At best, they are identical in terms of power demand because the GCWR is a hard limit. What you say makes no sense.

Secondly, a Cybertruck fully loaded to its maximum GCWR has plenty of power to complete any conceivable maneuver in traffic safely, including highway merges, with power left over. The acceleration is not "laggy" either. Nobody who has half a clue when it comes to towing heavy loads would ever claim the Dual Motor Cybertruck is "borderline dangerous" when fully loaded and trying to accelerate. That's just laughable and shows a complete lack of towing experience.

The truth of the matter is, the Dual Motor is the superior tow vehicle, it is rated to haul more payload when towing at the limit, and it can haul that payload a further distance on one charge, due to being naturally more efficient at steady-state throttle towing on the highway.
 

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And then you proceed to explain how the extra power really is just for acceleration. :ROFLMAO:



This is a BS narrative that the Dual Motor would be dangerously underpowered for towing at its full rated amounts.

First of all, if you install an extended range battery with a heavy trailer, that will require a lighter trailer than the maximum load without the extended range battery (in order to remain within the various weight and tow limits of the Cybertruck). That means the most demanding case in terms of power needed, is a truck without the extended range battery, but fully loaded with trailer and cargo. At best, they are identical in terms of power demand because the GCWR is a hard limit. What you say makes no sense.

Secondly, a Cybertruck fully loaded to its maximum GCWR has plenty of power to complete any conceivable maneuver in traffic safely, including highway merges, with power left over. The acceleration is not "laggy" either. Nobody who has half a clue when it comes to towing heavy loads would ever claim the Dual Motor Cybertruck is "borderline dangerous" when fully loaded and trying to accelerate. That's just laughable and shows a complete lack of towing experience.

The truth of the matter is, the Dual Motor is the superior tow vehicle, it is rated to haul more payload when towing at the limit, and it can haul that payload a further distance on one charge, due to being naturally more efficient at steady-state throttle towing on the highway.
Funny how a guy with the name "HaulingAss" is arguing for the slower of both options.

I think changing your name to "HaulingHalfAss" would be more appropriate considering you don't want to haul as much ass as your name suggests :ROFLMAO:
 

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Funny how a guy with the name "HaulingAss" is arguing for the slower of both options.

I think changing your name to "HaulingHalfAss" would be more appropriate considering you don't want to haul as much ass as your name suggests :ROFLMAO:
I want to haul MORE, not less. This load put me over the rear axle limit of the Dual Motor. Having 230 pounds of useless motor on the rear axle would have put me 230 pounds more over the rear axle load limit:

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Don't get me wrong, the truck handled being loaded over the rear axle load limit just fine, almost like the load didn't exist. I had to descend a steep and twisty 10% grade that had disintegrating pavement, deep ruts, potholes and rocks. The Tri-motor would probably have been fine too, but it would have been 230 lbs. worse off.

The power was not merely adequate for being fully loaded; it exceeded any reasonable persons wants or needs by a huge margin.

I wasn't arguing for one truck over the other, I was arguing actual facts. Specifically, I was calling out the bullshit that the Dual Motor would be dangerously underpowered when fully loaded with a heavy trailer and doing a freeway merge. That's pure ignorance right there, no matter how fast you like to haul ass.

"Haulin' ass" is as much about carrying speed as it is about acceleration. Trust me, the Dual Motor "haul's ass" just fine! On dirt tracks I can't even get 1/2 of the available power to the ground. The wheels will just break traction. On pavement, I have a faster car anyway, the Performance Model 3. It's lower to the ground, lighter, has sportier rubber, and can make better use of the acceleration.

A truck, to me, is just a truck. Yes, I like that the Cybertruck can be driven in a sporty manner, that it can "haul ass", but its nature as a truck is it's defining quality. I will likely pick up a Tri-Motor Cybertruck too, just for the hell of it, because it exists, but huge horsepower is not a requirement for haulin' ass, particularly on a truck equipped with all-terrain truck tires.
 
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I want to haul MORE, not less. This load put me over the rear axle limit of the Dual Motor. Having 230 pounds of useless motor on the rear axle would have put me 230 pounds more over the rear axle load limit:

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Don't get me wrong, the truck handled being loaded over the rear axle load limit just fine, almost like the load didn't exist. I had to descend a steep and twisty 10% grade that had disintegrating pavement, deep ruts, potholes and rocks. The Tri-motor would probably have been fine too, but it would have been 230 lbs. worse off.

The power was not merely adequate for being fully loaded; it exceeded any reasonable persons wants or needs by a huge margin.

"Haulin' ass" is as much about carrying speed as it is about acceleration. Trust me, the Dual Motor "haul's ass" just fine! On dirt tracks I can't even get 1/2 of the available power to the ground. The wheels will just break traction. On pavement, I have a faster car anyway, the Performance Model 3. It's lower to the ground, lighter, has sportier rubber, and can make better use of the acceleration.

A truck, to me, is just a truck. Yes, I like that the Cybertruck can be driven in a sporty manner, but its nature as a truck is it's defining quality. I will likely pick up a Tri-Motor Cybertruck too, just for the hell of it, because it exists, but huge horsepower is not a requirement of haulin' ass, particularly on a truck equipped with all-terrain truck tires.
I agree! To make one version of Cybertruck look good, we don’t have to make the other version look bad, though sometimes folks do it for fun, like that CyberTurtle meme. That one is funny but offensive! Just personal opinion. AWD is nothing to sneeze at, though my heart is set on Beast.

Both versions are pinnacles of engineering excellence. It’s just a personal preference and budget constraint at this point. Whoever says AWD is not enough probably are saying not enough for “them” and whoever says Beast is too much, they are saying it’s too much for “them”. Just personal preference. This thread is great though to hear diverse perspectives from current and future owners.
 

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I want to haul MORE, not less. This load put me over the rear axle limit of the Dual Motor. Having 230 pounds of useless motor on the rear axle would have put me 230 pounds more over the rear axle load limit:

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Don't get me wrong, the truck handled being loaded over the rear axle load limit just fine, almost like the load didn't exist. I had to descend a steep and twisty 10% grade that had disintegrating pavement, deep ruts, potholes and rocks. The Tri-motor would probably have been fine too, but it would have been 230 lbs. worse off.

The power was not merely adequate for being fully loaded; it exceeded any reasonable persons wants or needs by a huge margin.

I wasn't arguing for one truck over the other, I was arguing actual facts. Specifically, I was calling out the bullshit that the Dual Motor would be dangerously underpowered when fully loaded with a heavy trailer and doing a freeway merge. That's pure ignorance right there, no matter how fast you like to haul ass.

"Haulin' ass" is as much about carrying speed as it is about acceleration. Trust me, the Dual Motor "haul's ass" just fine! On dirt tracks I can't even get 1/2 of the available power to the ground. The wheels will just break traction. On pavement, I have a faster car anyway, the Performance Model 3. It's lower to the ground, lighter, has sportier rubber, and can make better use of the acceleration.

A truck, to me, is just a truck. Yes, I like that the Cybertruck can be driven in a sporty manner, that it can "haul ass", but its nature as a truck is it's defining quality. I will likely pick up a Tri-Motor Cybertruck too, just for the hell of it, because it exists, but huge horsepower is not a requirement for haulin' ass, particularly on a truck equipped with all-terrain truck tires.
Ok that's bad ass... HaulingAss loads of trees in the back of your truck is awesome. You get a pass for sure, the most weight I'll put in the back of my truck will be for Costco runs and various trips to my storage, while ripping around town seems like a completely different use case altogether haha
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