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Just 13 years to ditch the horse and carriages for gas.

Well EVs have been out longer than 13 years, people need to just get off that horse and carriage they are comfortable with and get with the EV future.

Let’s get these CT sold!

NEW YORK: 5TH AVENUE, APRIL 1900 AND EASTER 1913.

CIRCLED: SOLE PETROL CAR IN 1900 AND SOLE HORSE AND CARRIAGE IN 1913.

SOURCES: US NATIONAL ARCHIVES/WIKIPEDIA AND GEORGE BANTHAM BAIN COLLECTION.

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Well EVs have been out longer than 13 years, people need to just get off that horse and carriage they are comfortable with and get with the EV future.

NEW YORK: 5TH AVENUE, APRIL 1900 AND EASTER 1913.

CIRCLED: SOLE PETROL CAR IN 1900 AND SOLE HORSE AND CARRIAGE IN 1913.

SOURCES: US NATIONAL ARCHIVES/WIKIPEDIA AND GEORGE BANTHAM BAIN COLLECTION.

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In the US, we are probably 30 years from completely ditching ICE and that won't happen unless it's mandated or gas prices shoot through the roof.
 

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In the US, we are probably 30 years from completely ditching ICE and that won't happen unless it's mandated or gas prices shoot through the roof.
Getting closer each day, GMC, Chevrolet, and Toyota are pushing back on consumers truck options.

All the big 1/2 ton trucks mostly have the 4 cylinder turbo in them now, six and eight are upgrades and not standard.
 
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Well EVs have been out longer than 13 years, people need to just get off that horse and carriage they are comfortable with and get with the EV future.
In the US, we are probably 30 years from completely ditching ICE and that won't happen unless it's mandated or gas prices shoot through the roof.
2025 was a great year for BEV sales pretty much everywhere in the world -- except US/Canada:
Snapshot electric vehicle sales in 2025 vs 2024:
  • China: 12.9 million, +17%
  • Europe: 4.3 million, +33%
  • North America: 1.8 million, -4%
  • Rest of World: 1.7 million, +48%

  • Global: 20.7 million, +20%
In 2025, the North American market only accounted for about 8.7% of global BEV sales. China was 62.3%, Europe was 20.8%. Data from Benchmark.
 
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Getting closer each day, GMC, Chevrolet, and Toyota are pushing back on consumers truck options.

All the big 1/2 ton trucks mostly have the 4 cylinder turbo in them now, six and eight are upgrades and not standard.
How does that make things closer?

EV sales declined by 2-4% in 2025 in the US. The first decline since 2019. The BEV Truck market is almost nothing.

It's a long ways to go before calling ICE the horse in the horse vs. car analogy.
 


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How does that make things closer?

EV sales declined by 2-4% in 2025 in the US. The first decline since 2019. The BEV Truck market is almost nothing.

It's a long ways to go before calling ICE the horse in the horse vs. car analogy.
Ok true, guess it’s really a question.

It took 13 years to reprogram the minds from over 300 years of riding horses to transition to ICE in 1913.

So why such the holdup with people going from ICE to EV with the first Model S in 2012 to now?

Thirteen years later and peeps are still dragging @$$ in 2025 on making the switch, that’s my analogy. LOL

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Ok true, guess it’s really a question.

It took 13 years to reprogram the minds from over 300 years of riding horses to transition to ICE in 1913.

So why such the holdup with people going from ICE to EV with the first Model S in 2012 to now?

Thirteen years later and peeps are still dragging @$$ in 2025 on making the switch, that’s my analogy. LOL

Take care.
Price, convenance, comfort for some.

Not everyone has at home charging.
BEVs are more expensive than ICE
Many drive a car until it falls apart or buy used
Most aren't in the market for $80k+
Many have irrational fears about batteries, range, fires, whatever else dumb shit and are uncomfortable or even scared of EVs.
 

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You could argue that EREVs are actually hybrids, because they include both ICE and BEV components. For now, I will count them as EVs because use of the ICE generator is optional.
The fact it has a large 92 kWh battery so it can do everyday EV driving (even long commutes) on just the battery is impressive and a major differentiator IMO.

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The fact it has a large 92 kWh battery so it can do everyday EV driving (even long commutes) on just the battery is impressive and a major differentiator IMO.
I would agree. Don't see any official numbers from Ram, but this older story indicates that battery-only operation works for around 140 miles, which seems more than adequate for daily commuting.
If you want a wholly EV experience, Electric+ is the mode for you. Press that button, and the engine will not turn on until the battery's usable power is depleted. That should be around 140 miles of normal operation, according to Ram. Obviously, flooring the skinny pedal or towing up to 14,000 pounds will significantly reduce that range. But no matter how heavy your right foot is, the engine stays off in Electric+ mode until the battery is drained.
 

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Price and range aren’t the issue, it’s the design.

The majority of people in this world are sheep and they are uncomfortable being different and standing out. The Cybertruck is popular with celebrities and nerds, two groups who march to the beat of their own drum.

Obviously, I love it and couldn’t wait to get my hands on it from the day it was revealed on stage. I just know from people who I interact with that they just can’t see themselves in it because it’s out of their comfort zone.

I don’t know what the answer is but I hope this gets better with time, as the CT becomes more “normal” to others just from seeing it on the road every day. I also hope Tesla builds on the line and adds a large SUV to the Cyber fleet.
 


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Ok true, guess it’s really a question.

It took 13 years to reprogram the minds from over 300 years of riding horses to transition to ICE in 1913.

So why such the holdup with people going from ICE to EV with the first Model S in 2012 to now?

Thirteen years later and peeps are still dragging @$$ in 2025 on making the switch, that’s my analogy. LOL

Take care.
I think the upgrade from a horse to a car is a much easier choice. It's a big difference. That's more like going from radio to TV.

Some people see a car as a car. It gets them from point A to B the same no matter if it's an EV or gas.
 

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In the US, we are probably 30 years from completely ditching ICE and that won't happen unless it's mandated or gas prices shoot through the roof.
Extrapolating current adoption rates, the US reaches 50% EVs in 12 years and 70% EVs in 15 years. This is standard "diffusion of innovations" from the economics literature. Mandates and fuel prices aren't that relevant; any more than they were for washing machines or TVs or PCs. Better technologies win in the long run. For many complex reasons, the US is just slow to adopt this particular technology.

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He has many other countries and charts available.
 

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Don’t know, today people can’t even go from Facebook to Instagram, or iPhone to Android, vice versa, most just simply refuse.

Suggest, hang onto those corrector items.

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Getting closer each day, GMC, Chevrolet, and Toyota are pushing back on consumers truck options.

All the big 1/2 ton trucks mostly have the 4 cylinder turbo in them now, six and eight are upgrades and not standard.
No 1/2 ton Ford pickup is even available with a 4-cylinder engine.
 

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We want adoption for all EV pickups along with the cybertruck
Hundyia/Kia/Honda will be joining soon
How can you ignore a segment so large
As soon as have 500 mile cold weather range, this segment for EV PUs will explode
It will take a lot less time once those 3 vendors (and Toyota) get into making SMALL EV Pickup trucks (half ton size)... Why? ADVERTISING!! Honda especially, and Toyota too, will spend MILLIONS advertising them!

Of course I think most are going to go the 'hybrid' way... MUCH more profits in Hybrids and they can keep pushing the 'scarytales' of BEVs running out of juice and such... It's how Toyota has made most of their money (hybrids)... They make a FORTUNE on them because they are cheaper to make than V8's OR BEVs but they sell them for a premium because they get better mileage than a 'gas' pickup and "you never have to worry about charging" stories...

But in just a few more years people are going to start noticing and actually SEEING chargers EVERYWHERE and that's going to start changing people's minds from within... (IMO)

If TESLA wanted to REALLY sell a lot of them, all they would have to do is start ADVERTISING THEM!! I mean again, look at Toyota... They are HUGE because they spend BILLIONS in advertising, not because they make good stuff...

Tesla has relied on 'word of mouth' advertising for a bit too long I think... If they spent 1 million a year per model on TV and Radio ads (instead of just YouTube and X), they could probably DOUBLE their sales figures...
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