Cybertruck FSD saves life of wrong-way driver (head on collision avoided)

[Beetlebug62]

Oddly, I had a wrong way driver coming towards me today on my way to the gym. There was a lot of construction, so I can see how they might have gotten confused.

Thankfully, it was all rather slow speed, <45mph and slowing, so I let FSDv13.2.9 handle it.

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[Pops]

Honest question: Can this save be attributed to FSD? If the driver had not been using FSD one can only assume the human driver would also attempt to avoid the accident?

If the wrong-way-driver tried going for the shoulder they would have collided. It was an impressive maneuver for a machine, but I am not sure it was something the driver could have not done on their own.

There is lots of safety tech that go beyond human capability:
* Air bags
* Crumple Zones
* Seat belts
* Anti-lock brakes
* Stability control systems

Where I think FSD undoubtedly is superhuman:
* Sleeping/incapacitated/distracted drivers
* Seeing threats from multiple angles at once

When FSD still used radar Elon bragged about how it could see vehicles outside the line of sight. It could bounce radar off the road under the vehicle in front, to see 2 or 3 cars ahead.There were lots of video examples of it avoid accidents before they were even visible to the driver. This is one of the major drawbacks of Vision Only.

Edit for example, you need sound to hear the FSD alert:

 

[Pops]

At 75 mph each, that's 150 mph closing speed. NOBODY, is looking far enough down the road to see that coming with any meaningful perception and reaction time to spare. Even FSD was pretty dang late to react.

I am not sure they were going 75mph in the video. It seems unlikely for a 2 lane road without a divider. The on coming car was visible for at least 9 seconds.

 

[HaulingAss]

Your post made me wonder about this scenario -- what if the oncoming vehicles were also using FSD? Would they somehow be able to communicate / signal to each other which way to swerve, or would they possible independently swerve in the same direction and still hit each other head-on.

Humans have been driving without communication with oncoming drivers for over a century and no one ever suggests we need two way communication between every driver. That's why we have driving conventions, so each driver (should) know what to do in every situation. Two-way communication is not needed between human drivers and it's even less necessary for autonomy.

Why do you wonder what the oncoming vehicle would do if it was using FSD? Obviously, it wouldn't pull such a dumb stunt because, by the time it's fully autonomous, it would be smarter than that. With human drivers the convention is the cars pass driver side to driver side. In other words, both drivers stay right, just as FSD did in the video.

 

[CodeSection]

Perhaps I do not fully understand FSD, or maybe I'm naive. In the video, I clearly see that even before the car reaches the bridge, the oncoming car's headlights are visible in the distance.

Why didn't FSD slow the car down or even pull to the side before entering the bridge (0:07)? If there wasn't enough room to pull to the side on the bridge, why didn't FSD pull over at the end of the bridge (0:11)?

It just seems FSD acted way too late as compared with what a driver or I would. I've had been in this scenario several times when driving two-lane roadways....

 

[That Beast Mode]

Absolutely

I'm sure you've seen enough of the outcomes to this scenario to know how the story ends. I'm sure it's not pretty.

 

[hemiarch]

I'm sure you've seen enough of the outcomes to this scenario to know how the story ends. I'm sure it's not pretty.

Very infrequently because they are self-selecting. They don’t make it to the hospital.
The ones I have seen have been FUBAR BUNDY

 

[hemiarch]

I STILL don’t understand the circumstances of this video @CyberGus.
If this is a wrong way driver it’s the Tesla that’s going the wrong way. Why is a car in FSD heading the wrong way on on what I assume is a 4 lane with a large median?

 

[CyberGus]

I STILL don’t understand the circumstances of this video @CyberGus.
If this is a wrong way driver it’s the Tesla that’s going the wrong way. Why is a car in FSD heading the wrong way on on what I assume is a 4 lane with a large median?

In the first frame of the video, you can see a road sign on the right facing the driver. That would not be true for wrong-way traffic (unless it was a "WRONG WAY" sign lol). At 0:15 there's a sign on the left, facing the other direction.

I assume this is a two-lane rural highway, with a dashed centerline to indicate that this is a passing zone.

 

[hemiarch]

In the first frame of the video, you can see a road sign on the right facing the driver. That would not be true for wrong-way traffic (unless it was a "WRONG WAY" sign lol). At 0:15 there's a sign on the left, facing the other direction.

I assume this is a two-lane rural highway, with a dashed centerline to indicate that this is a passing zone.

So it’s not a wrong way, it’s being saved from a bonehead attempting an excessively aggressive pass maneuver?

 

[CyberGus]

I clearly see that even before the car reaches the bridge, the oncoming car's headlights are visible in the distance...

It just seems FSD acted way too late as compared with what a driver or I would.

Are the vehicles shown above in the distance side-by-side, or are they merely on a curve? You have 3 seconds to decide, or you're dead. Or, no big deal.

When there's an oncoming vehicle in your lane 11 seconds away, do you drive immediately into the ditch? Of course not, it's a driver passing that will (presumably) return to their own lane. The imminent collision was not detectable until the distance was very short.

 

[CyberGus]

So it’s not a wrong way, it’s being saved from a bonehead attempting an excessively aggressive pass maneuver?

Technically both?

 

[hemiarch]

Technically both?

Potato potato

 

[Gaximus]

Your post made me wonder about this scenario -- what if the oncoming vehicles were also using FSD? Would they somehow be able to communicate / signal to each other which way to swerve, or would they possible independently swerve in the same direction and still hit each other head-on.

This reminds me of a video I saw a long time ago about FSD. The idea being since all cars would be self driving and able to communicate with each other, there would be no need for lights at intersections. Cars could calculate when and where to intercect with out slowing down. It would be like when a large group of pedestrestrians cross an intersection without hitting each other, but more actuate. They said one of the things for this to work would be blacking out the windows, because humans would just be too scared and try to take over.

 

[Urander]

We just had this in Vegas

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