Universal Wall Connector vs Tesla Wall Connector?

[NightOwl]

I didn’t realize The CT Foundation series comes with a Universal Wall Connector. So I ordered a Tesla Wall Connector. I’m assuming I don’t need a Tesla Wall Connector if I’m getting the Universal Wall Connector?

 

[cybercoffee]

I didn’t realize The CT Foundation series comes with a Universal Wall Connector. So I ordered a Tesla Wall Connector. I’m assuming I don’t need a Tesla Wall Connector if I’m getting the Universal Wall Connector?

Correct, if you have a universal wall connector you do not need a Tesla wall connector. "come with" is a broad term...if you're in the same boat as a lot of the rest of us, you may be deemed ineligible for PowerShare backup installation and they will give you Tesla store credits which you can spend on whatever including a wall connector or universal wall connector at that time

 

[NightOwl]

So I shouldn’t have this installed because I “might” get a Universal Wall Connector? I got a quote for installation of the Tesla charger for $2,250. It’s supposedly from a Tesla certified vendor. I told them I wanted to proceed once I receive the Tesla wall charger, which I got this afternoon. But I’m now confused by this information about the Universal Wall Charger. If I understand you correctly, I won‘t need the one I ordered, and I just need to get the one that comes with it sent directly to this vendor somehow? I guess the price will be the same for the installation either way?

Although it sounds like I should also be getting a Gateway of some kind? And it‘s what allows backing up of the house power? But that’ll be an extra installation cost of maybe another couple thousand dollars?

But if we don’t want the gateway, we can still get the free Universal Wall Charger? Sorry for all the questions. It’s very unclear what this deal is supposed to be. I also just left Tesla a message through the app. If the Wall connector is provided, I hope they’ll allow the other to be returned (unopened). I think it said no returns on their website. But given these circumstances and the lack of clarity, who knows.

 

[NightOwl]

I found a link on their site that answered the questions I have. Apparently you don‘t choose what you want to do until sometime after you order your CyberTruck.

https://www.tesla.com/support/powershare#240v

 

[akenis]

Most vendors seem to be installing the V3 gateway and UWC for around $2,500. Free equipment. This gives you the ability to charge truck and charge house from truck. Having the gateway installed makes Powerwall installation about 4K cheaper if you ever intend to go that direction. PW installation also makes the whole thing 30% tax credit.

If you buy your own $500 charger, I'd plan on 1-1.5K for install depending on your layout. If you decline $1800 worth of the included equipment, you get a $700 shop credit.

The free UWC is slightly different than the one you ordered. It allows for charging TESLA NACS as well as J1773 that other cars have. Might be useful if friends or family are visiting. It also is wired with a communications wire that allows the gateway to tell the truck to turn on when the gateway senses a power outage....then the truck can power your house. That's 123KwHr of stored energy, the equivalent of 9 power walls! ($8K each).

At some point, Power share will be compatible with any Powerwall + charger set up. The communication to the truck will be done via power line transmissions instead of the separate comm wire included in the UWC.

Edit: I think it's an all or nothing deal with the power share set up. You either accept the V3 gateway and UWC, or take $700 credit. Not sure.

 

[Crissa]

Edit: I think it's an all or nothing deal with the power share set up. You either accept the V3 gateway and UWC, or take $700 credit. Not sure.

This does seem to be the case. That $700 credit is enough to buy a Wall Connector which is all you need for Powersharing if you already have Powerwalls, too.

-Crissa

 

[scottf200]

The free UWC is slightly different than the one you ordered. It allows for charging TESLA NACS as well as J1773 that other cars have. Might be useful if friends or family are visiting. It also is wired with a communications wire that allows the gateway to tell the truck to turn on when the gateway senses a power outage....then the truck can power your house.

Has anyone found any reference in a manual / webpage / etc for this communication wire? I can't find any references / desc / spec on it. Confusing based on the below.

UPDATE:
Past/old -- I found this text on this *cached* page where it *mentions* the 'communication wire':
https://webcache.googleusercontent....port/charging/wall-connector/power-management

Current/Now from where it does NOT *mention* the 'communication wire':
https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/wall-connector/power-management
it shows: