ELECTREK: No other pickup could even attempt

[Ehninger1212]

I didnt see anything in this video my 2005 Land Rover cant do..

 

[Klaxon]

I am not sure that Rivian will pass the safary quality control

 

[Luke42]

Chill pill everyone. The Rivian R1T is a legitimately desirable EV truck.

It's more conventional than the CT in a lot of ways, but it's a really well thought out and really well executed design which targets Jeep, Toyota, and Nissan adventure vehicles. The Rivian folks built what they set out to build, and nailed it. It's a good truck, and legitimately compelling.

Is it better than the CT for my purposes? That remains to be seen. The CT is targeting the F150 (more like my current truck than the Tacoma/Frontier targeted by the R1T), and Tesla is completely unbeholden by convention. Tesla's combination of the 500+ mile pack and the stainless steel exterior will be pretty compelling when it comes to market. The CT will also likely be a good truck, and legitimately compelling.

The Rovian R1T with the Max Pack will certainly work for me, when the Max Pack hits the market. The CT may work better for me, when it hits the market. The fact that this might be a hard decision is really fucking cool!!!

I'm "sorry" to say, but the only way to solve this is going to be a drive-off. I'm going to have to play with a bunch of EVs to determine which one suits my needs the best. That's going to be fun!

After seeing the R1T in person, my attitude toward it has been adjusted toward considering it respectable competition for the Cybertruck.

The Rivian truck is a legitimately well executed EV truck design, and there's room in the market for multiple designs.

 

[TomGriff]

It is interesting to see how good the CT will be off-road when there is no apparent testing of any of the prototypes. Trucks don't usually make the best off-road vehicles due to size and longer wheel base. I suspect that the R1T will be the best stock off-road of the EVs (Hummer might be pretty close). I love my Tesla, but it isn't perfect and there are things my Chevy Bolt actually does better. It is fair to say that each of the EVs on the horizon will have some strengths and weaknesses. Personally if I were going to spend the money for a tri-motor CT I would go Rivian instead because I like the looks better and don't need a full size truck.

 

[Crissa]

It is interesting to see how good the CT will be off-road when there is no apparent testing of any of the prototypes.

Did you miss all the videos posted this week?
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...uck-footage-shot-by-tesla-in-nyc-gigafactory/
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ipers-side-mirrors-wheel-aero-covers-removed/

-Crissa

 

[TomGriff]

Did you miss all the videos posted this week?
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...uck-footage-shot-by-tesla-in-nyc-gigafactory/
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ipers-side-mirrors-wheel-aero-covers-removed/

-Crissa

I saw some dirt in the video but not what I would consider "off-road." "Off-road" (to me and I guess people I'm around) means terrain that requires at least 4 wheel drive(I have seen people do amazing things with 2WD, but that is an exception) and increased ground clearance. To clarify my thinking, my Subaru, even though it had a great AWD system, was not off-road capable - not enough torque, ground clearance or under-body protection. Most dirt or gravel roads aren't really off-road as I use the term until they begin to have obstacles or become very steep/technical. I guess I should have clarified, words don't always mean the same thing to everyone. All that being said, the CT's breakover, departure angles, torque and ground clearance indicate that it will very strong off-road but we don't know how reliable it will (Early MS had some air suspension problems), will the camera system be helpful off-road (presumably yes, but we don't know) and how effective the traction management system. I think the wheelbase will be a negative for it (as it is for all full-size pickup trucks). Very few people actually go off-road with there off-road capable vehicles, just as many adventure motorcycles never venture beyond fire roads.

 

[Zabhawkin]

Chill pit everyone. The Rivian R1T is a legitimately desirable EV truck.

It's more conventional than the CT in a lot of ways, but it's a really well thought out and really well executed design which targets Jeep, Toyota, and Nissan adventure vehicles. The Rivian folks built what they set out to build, and nailed it. It's a good truck, and legitimately compelling.

Is it better than the CT for my purposes? That remains to be seen. The CT is targeting the F150 (more like my current truck than the Tacoma/Frontier targeted by the R1T), and Tesla is completely unbeholden by convention. Tesla's combination of the 500+ mile pack and the stainless steel exterior will be pretty compelling when it comes to market. The CT will also likely be a food truck, and legitimately compelling.

The Rovian R1T with the Max Pack will certainly work for me, when the Max Pack hits the market. The CT may work better for me, when it hits the market. The fact that this might be a hard decision is really fucking cool!!!

I'm "sorry" to say, but the only way to solve this is going to be a drive-off. I'm going to have to play with a bunch of EVs to determine which one suits my needs the best. That's going to be fun!

After seeing the R1T in person, my attitude toward it has been adjusted toward considering it respectable competition for the Cybertruck.

The Rivian truck is a legitimately well executed EV truck design, and there's room in the market for multiple designs.

We aren't attacking the Rivian, we agree it is a decently executed truck.

What we are attacking it the reporters lack of knowledge/experience by making the statement

The R1T isn't just an incredibly fast and impressive 3-second 0 to 60 street pickup with racing suspension right now. It also does things off-road that no other pickup could even attempt.

The number of stock ICE truck models that can, and have done that trail is actually quite large. Most brands have both a midsized, and full sized off-road version with locking differentials straight from the factory.

 

[John K]

I am nothing if not literal.

Liberals are young conservatives. ?

Conservatives are one step away from dementia

What are we talking about…someone get the door

While I classify myself as just right of center, conservative call me liberal and liberals call me conservative. All depends on the issue.

 

[Crissa]

Liberals are young conservatives. ?

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889?journalCode=jop

Of course, lots of things happen over time, and those who have less stable living situations, lower paying jobs, being more liberal and hence, having a shorter life expectancy...

-Crissa

 

[John K]

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889?journalCode=jop

Of course, lots of things happen over time, and those who have less stable living situations, lower paying jobs, being more liberal and hence, having a shorter life expectancy...

-Crissa

I hope the joke played out knowing it was literal and not liberal. My humor is “special”

 

[Crissa]

I really did mean to click the laugh before I replied, honest!

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Quad motor will come a couple years after initial release. Gotta give money bags a reason to trade in the cybertruck for a new one.

I suspect you’d have to try pretty hard to find situations where the quad motor will significantly outperform the tri motor. Good chance we’ll never see a quad motor CT.