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It's a TWO-WAY, Single lane each side!! The on coming truck was attempting to pass a truck in the same lane as he. However the speed and timing where way off. The oncoming truck was in the wrong.
Took me a while but finally got that.
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The question is how this guy needed up going in the opposite lane. Did the FSD take him there?
The Cybertruck was in the CORRECT lane the on coming truck was initially in the other lane coming around and passing a truck in his lane. Ending up in the WRONG lane coming right at the Cybertruck and about to ruin everyone's day!!
 

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The Cybertruck was in the CORRECT lane the on coming truck was initially in the other lane coming around and passing a truck in his lane. Ending up in the WRONG lane coming right at the Cybertruck and about to ruin everyone's day!!
Totally missed it. Thanks!
 

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Not my Cybertruck, but the Model 3. I did immediately slow when I saw the car in my lane coming towards me, disengaging FSD. But hard to read their mind so that I didn’t also try to pull over, which would have made things worse. In the end they lost control, crossed back over the road and jumped a fence rolling their vehicle in the process. It was a guy driving with his wife and baby. I passed the video on to the police. So many deaths on this road from similar driving.
 


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Known as the Singularity, it’s the point where human and artificial intelligence merge, erasing the boundary between mind and machine.
I’ve seen that movie

It doesn’t turn out well
 

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Honest question: Can this save be attributed to FSD? If the driver had not been using FSD one can only assume the human driver would also attempt to avoid the accident?
This is the first thing that occurred to me. If I was aware of what was happening, I'm sure I wouldn't have trusted FSD to save my life in this situation and I would have taken over. The brief "should I or shouldn't I" calculus in my brain might have delayed me taking action, which wouldn't be good. It would be interesting to know how aware the driver was of the situation as it unfolded.


When FSD still used radar Elon bragged about how it could see vehicles outside the line of sight. It could bounce radar off the road under the vehicle in front, to see 2 or 3 cars ahead.There were lots of video examples of it avoid accidents before they were even visible to the driver. This is one of the major drawbacks of Vision Only.

Edit for example, you need sound to hear the FSD alert:
My '15 85D had the early single camera system. I remember when the car-ahead-of-the-car update dropped for Autopilot. I could sometimes see a car on the display ahead of the one ahead of me, so it seemed like it was doing *something*. Then one dark wet winter evening I was driving in rush hour east of Vancouver, in the fast lane, with AP engaged to keep a safe follow distance. Both lanes were almost bumper to bumper, but we were moving along nicely at around 110 kmh. I had a big Super Duty Ford ahead of me and I had zero vision of what was ahead of him.

I felt my S back off the accelerator and slow down. I had a moment of panic while I pondered whether I was about to have a breakdown and was checking my mirrors when that Ford slammed on the brakes and careened into the slow lane. Now visible ahead of me was a Subaru coming to a stop for a stoppage ahead of him. So clearly Autopilot had decided that the invisible Subaru was the primary 'threat' ahead of me and was keeping a constant distance from it. The Ford driver wasn't paying attention and just about took out someone in the right lane to avoid rear-ending the 'roo.

I started giggling like a schoolgirl, because what I had seen was the first real evidence that the car could drive better than me... at least in some situations. I had a few other similar experiences after that with that function, but not as clearly awesome as this one was.
 

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This is why I don't used FSD supervised. The driver clearly had 5-6 seconds to react and didn't. This should never have been that close to disaster. I fear I may also become complacent and needlessly endanger myself and others trusting an ADAS system just good enough to let your guard done occasionally. I've had a similar situation happen to me twice in my life with less than 5-6 seconds to react. Neither resulted in an accident or near disaster or near disaster.
Independent testing 9/2024 reveal FSD supervised needed 75 interventions over a 1000 miles driven. If that become 1 per 100 or 200 miles more and more drivers are going to get complacent.
Hopefully the driver has enough insight to how FSD supervised has impaired his ability to drive safely to either remain hyperalert or quit using it.
 

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I can easily see multiple headlights approaching quickly, so I would have pulled over. But I'm very confused! I see an oncoming truck, a car, then another car, and then another for a total of three cars (four oncoming vehicles). It looks like you're going the wrong way, but then I see two cars passing you going in the same direction as you. Who's going the wrong way, and why are so many vehicles going the wrong way? Something needs to be redesigned!
 


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Who's going the wrong way, and why are so many vehicles going the wrong way? Something needs to be redesigned!
Get your Big Government hands off my public roads!

This is America! Don't tell me which side to drive on, Comrade

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This is the first thing that occurred to me. If I was aware of what was happening, I'm sure I wouldn't have trusted FSD to save my life in this situation and I would have taken over. The brief "should I or shouldn't I" calculus in my brain might have delayed me taking action, which wouldn't be good. It would be interesting to know how aware the driver was of the situation as it unfolded.




My '15 85D had the early single camera system. I remember when the car-ahead-of-the-car update dropped for Autopilot. I could sometimes see a car on the display ahead of the one ahead of me, so it seemed like it was doing *something*. Then one dark wet winter evening I was driving in rush hour east of Vancouver, in the fast lane, with AP engaged to keep a safe follow distance. Both lanes were almost bumper to bumper, but we were moving along nicely at around 110 kmh. I had a big Super Duty Ford ahead of me and I had zero vision of what was ahead of him.

I felt my S back off the accelerator and slow down. I had a moment of panic while I pondered whether I was about to have a breakdown and was checking my mirrors when that Ford slammed on the brakes and careened into the slow lane. Now visible ahead of me was a Subaru coming to a stop for a stoppage ahead of him. So clearly Autopilot had decided that the invisible Subaru was the primary 'threat' ahead of me and was keeping a constant distance from it. The Ford driver wasn't paying attention and just about took out someone in the right lane to avoid rear-ending the 'roo.

I started giggling like a schoolgirl, because what I had seen was the first real evidence that the car could drive better than me... at least in some situations. I had a few other similar experiences after that with that function, but not as clearly awesome as this one was.
That was when AP used radar to see forward along with camera vision. The current FSD cannot do what your ‘15 AP car did. I also had one of them and experienced the same phenomenal ability to see beyond vision, around objects or vehicles. That functionality was abandoned when radar and infrared bumper sensors went away in favor of pure camera vision. Jury remains out, given that weather can completely shut down all FSD functionality - how will we rely on unsupervised driving/robotaxi if the car will just stop when cameras are obscured, as recently happened to me on a 4-mile-long bridge, due to a sudden downpour? Maybe the engineers have special fairy dust, but it is the one remaining thing that keeps me a bit skeptical, and I am hearing may be why some senior FSD engineers recently decided to cash in their TSLA chips - the pure camera vision technological brick wall.
 
 








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