Battery Pack Teardown Photos Reveals Empty Spaces (Sandy Munro Live)

[Cougs]

So how much range would you pay for? Let's say that it costs an extra $10,000 for each extra 100 miles of range.

I will pay it. Do you have one??
I posted that the cybertruck may actually have 150 Kw not 123 Kw. Musk may have stated that the cybertruck have available not potential. Tesla may unlock the 37 Kw later for which truck??

 

[Cougs]

I'd pay the 16k for 100mi extra (under the floor, not in the bed)! Beast = 400mi epa and > 150 towing and 250+ mi at 80mph - would be perfect! Extra 800lbs? would put truck at 7700lbs - still lighter than my 2500! I'll survive with CB as is, but doesn't mean I wouldn't like the above as a good balance for my use case!

Agree, 7700 lbs is manageable. Tesla should have allowed customers to add the mileage for extra like Rivian, GM, and Ford. I bet that the option of adding more range would be available as soon as Samsung, LG, etc battery suppliers start making 4680 or 4695 whatever in 2026. We have two plus years to complain until then.

The main reason I am buying a Tesla instead of Rivian is range which was 500 plus miles and charging infrastructure. Currently I like the technology in it so I am stuck unless I buy Ford 6.7 L diesel or a Ram 2500 diesel.

 

[Woodrick]

Munro & Co. have begun their teardown of the Cybertruck battery.





Interestingly, there is a lot of space above the cells. It doesn't appear to be enough for another layer, but it is a curious amount of emptiness. Is it needed for cooling? Could the originally-planned double-stacked pack be achieved with an only slightly taller pack?

Yep, as expected, all FUD. It's not room for more batteries, it's expansion room for runaway batteries and since it is on the bottom, a place to bend when you hit a rock.

 

[BannedByTMC]

Latest vid with the details

 

[AustroTom]

Why sell a full jar of olives when you can take out three and sell the jar at the same price?

Thats what I think. Sell a "Hyper" Series at a higher price, with fewer cells (i.e. cheaper still), slap a "Foundation Series" sticker on it and voila, "Here's your Cybertruck you waited for". Maybe then enough money is generated to build the real truck (as promised).

 

[Knucklehead]

So how much range would you pay for? Let's say that it costs an extra $10,000 for each extra 100 miles of range.

Yep, definitely I would pay 10k more for 100 miles more range.

 

[Knucklehead]

...Because that's a ridiculous way to look at things.

You have a gas tank with a certain range because it's difficult and dangerous to transport and store large amounts of gasoline, so you want it to be able to go a week without going to a specialized station to refill. When you refill, someone has to stand there and watch and match sure your vehicle doesn't blow up, while dispensing the dangerous fuel.

Neither of these things are true about electricity. It's easy and safe to transport - even with things like the Paradise fire - it's still so much safer than the transport of anything else known to man other than information. It's so safe to load into your vehicle, you don't need to be present to do it. And it's so ubiquitous, you have to specifically try to get away from places that have it. Electricity is far more ubiquitous than gas stations.

Sure, EVSEs aren't as common yet and DC Fast chargers require a substation that may or may not be easy to get. But they're expanding all the time.

Just plug in when you go pee. Or vice versa. But you'll literally spend less time plugging and unplugging than you would have spent standing at attention at a gas pump. Even if you charge every day and twice on Saturday.

-Crissa

I understand your points, but I am referring to a trip away from home.

I also hate stopping for gas and it is very annoying when you leave the house on an errand and realize you have to get gas first. Absolutely refueling at home with electricity is better.

But when on a trip, I only want to stop when I want to stop, not when I am forced to stop. The fewer times I am forced to stop, the better. Ideally I could charge at home, and make it to my destination without being forced to stop. And then I can destination charge. Longer range BEVs make that more likely, and that is what I want. If you don't want that, no problem.

 

[Crissa]

But when on a trip, I only want to stop when I want to stop, not when I am forced to stop. The fewer times I am forced to stop, the better. Ideally I could charge at home, and make it to my destination without being forced to stop. And then I can destination charge. Longer range BEVs make that more likely, and that is what I want. If you don't want that, no problem.

Then your destination need a bigger and bigger charger. A full power Destination charger can refill a Cybertruck in ten hours - but uses the power of eight space heaters to do so. That 200kWh will not charge overnight, and hotels are going to be really suspect installing something that can charge it overnight.

That's the problem.

You just need to plug in whenever you stop, yeah, but you need to stop anyhow. So just do the stuff when your truck wants to plug in. You don't have to babysit it.

-Crissa

 

[hokietima]

Funny how the wild battery pack speculation started with the X (tweet) post from Munro Live before the actual video was released.

The tag line should be "Sandy Munro confirms Cybertruck battery crush zone"

Sandy does indicate in the video that the empty space is about 33mm high. The dimensions of a 4680 cell is 80mm tall and 46mm in diameter. No room to add another layer with 4680s. The one possibility is allowing room for a new cell that may be taller, but Sandy is probably correct that Tesla built in a crush zone on the bottom of the battery pack.

 

[BeleeEV]

Man, this thread didn’t age well. So many jumping to conclusions over a pic, saying missing cells! FS is getting short changed etc. Now radio silence from, you know who you are. Now full video reveals that’s the bottom of the pack and the 33mil of space is for crumple and gas flow purposes. Once again some folks on this sight managed to be the strongest FUD spreaders. This is another myth that now will live on with the un informed.

 

[Cougs]

Man, this thread didn’t age well. So many jumping to conclusions over a pic, saying missing cells! FS is getting short changed etc. Now radio silence from, you know who you are. Now full video reveals that’s the bottom of the pack and the 33mil of space is for crumple and gas flow purposes. Once again some folks on this sight managed to be the strongest FUD spreaders. This is another myth that now will live on with the un informed.

I am not a big or knowledgeable car guy but still questioned in this forum that the empty space may have a function. This is what I said:

"Do we know what the function of the empty space in the battery pack?"

I personally did not know but never thought that Tesla will stack their batteries up because it is not safe nor efficient especially they need to come up with battery management process.

Crissa is smart and was spot on:
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The plate above that has ripples in it for structure. It still needs structure as they're assembling it.

There also needs to be expansion space, so that gasses can escape during a collision or failure.

-Crissa

 

[BeleeEV]

I am not a big or knowledgeable car guy but still questioned in this forum that the empty space may have a function. This is what I said:

"Do we know what the function of the empty space in the battery pack?"

I personally did not know but never thought that Tesla will stack their batteries up because it is not safe nor efficient especially they need to come up with battery management process.

Crissa is smart and was spot on:
"
The plate above that has ripples in it for structure. It still needs structure as they're assembling it.

There also needs to be expansion space, so that gasses can escape during a collision or failure.

-Crissa

Ya. I wasn’t referring to you. Or anyone just guessing or speculating. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Cougs]

no worries, I knew that just saying that the function of the empty space was asked in this forum and Crissa figured that out. We know that others did what they did.

 

[Woodrick]

Yep, definitely I would pay 10k more for 100 miles more range.

So 430 is all you need?

 

[Cougs]

So 430 is all you need?

for now until GM and Ford make trucks at 500 plus miles