Universal Charger Delivery & Install

[cgladue]

ive watched youtube videos of people using Mobile connector to charge another tesla at 32amps so i know at least 32 amps is possible.

 

[mark555055c]

I mean we can go to their website (and even to amazon) and buy a wall charger no questions asked. It seems like the least they could do is include that whether we are approved (or want to pay for gateway install) or not.

Yeah, i would think so.

Worse case just plug the NEMA 14-50 plug in the bed of the truck into a standard generator inlet box and just use a main breaker interlock kit to isolate the grid. thats my backup plan in case all this becomes very expensive to install. not worth it.

Hmmm, i will need to be doing some googling, this sounds interesting.

 

[agordon117]

ive watched youtube videos of people using Mobile connector to charge another tesla at 32amps so i know at least 32 amps is possible.

Yeah, you're right. 40A makes more sense. It's just amazing that the first 6 or 7 results on google claimed 30A. Had to scroll quite far to find one claiming 40A

 

[cgladue]

ok i found it i knew i watched a video testing this ... Out of Spec Reviews.



they were able to pull the full 40 amps from the 14-50 plug

 

[webspeedracer]

Awesome, I can charge with 110v until the WC arrives. I guess I'll go for a drive about once a week?

Cybergus, if you’re referring to Mobile Charger, it comes with a 240V NEMA 14-50P adapter plug so you can charge a lot faster than 110V/15A.

Also new EVers on this thread: Have a friendly electrician install an industrial-grade 14-50R at the location where you’ll want to your Wall Charger installed, (and be sure to have the wiring/breaker rated for the eventual PowerShare specs, and the location fit the wiring layout that Tesla is recommending for PowerShare Universal Charger location).

The 14-50 receptacle with Mobile Charger is capable of plenty of miles while you sleep, will provide plenty of miles for local trips when you wake up every morning. When your PowerShare is eventually installed it will be an upgrade of the 14-50R.

Or, as an alternate plan you can install the NEMA 14-50R on the opposite side of your garage (from your intended PowerShare location) permanently, and keep it for for guests with big-rig RVs, a second EV charging receptacle, or for your welding projects.

 

[CyberGus]

if you’re referring to Mobile Charger, it comes with a 240V NEMA 14-50P adapter plug so you can charge a lot faster than 110V/15A

There is exactly one 220v outlet in my house, and I'm certain the Cybertruck will not fit in my laundry room. Even charging with 110v will require a long extension cord, as there are no outlets outside.

 

[webspeedracer]

There is exactly one 220v outlet in my house, and I'm certain the Cybertruck will not fit in my laundry room. Even charging with 110v will require a long extension cord, as there are no outlets outside.

Sounds like your home is like most homes without 240V in the garage…which is why you *could* have a friendly electrician install an industrial-grade NEMA 14-50 240V receptacle in your parking area, as an intermediary step, prior to taking delivery of your CT, and to bridge the gap until your PowerShare hardware is delivered/installed.

If your wiring run isn’t too long to the panel, the 14-50R should only be a couple hundred bucks, especially if you tell the electrician you want it for parents visiting with their RV . If you let on it’s for your incoming Cybertruck, it might cost double+ that.

 

[RayzorBEV]

There is exactly one 220v outlet in my house, and I'm certain the Cybertruck will not fit in my laundry room. Even charging with 110v will require a long extension cord, as there are no outlets outside.

Before I had my Universal connector installed, I had the same situation so I bored a hole through the drywall into the garage and added a vent adapter where my portable charging cable goes through. Then I added an aftermarket 2-way electrical switch that I can flip between charging my EVs or using my dryer. The switch can be purchased on Amazon.

 

[Callsign_Vega]

I mean we can go to their website (and even to amazon) and buy a wall charger no questions asked. It seems like the least they could do is include that whether we are approved (or want to pay for gateway install) or not.

Exactly, that's my point. If they deny sending me a wall charger because of some stupid obscure install survey, I'm going to be really pissed. This is the scummy stuff Tesla does that is leading to eroding perception of the company.

 

[CyberGus]

you *could* have a friendly electrician install an industrial-grade NEMA 14-50 240V receptacle in your parking area, as an intermediary step

so I bored a hole through the drywall into the garage and added a vent adapter where my portable charging cable goes through. Then I added an aftermarket 2-way electrical switch that I can flip between charging my EVs or using my dryer.

My "parking area" is the driveway. The nearest 110v outlet is ~30 feet away, the breaker panel and 220v outlet are ~40 feet away with two intervening walls, and the outdoor main panel is ~60 feet away (and I don't even have a main cutoff).

My dryer is gas so I'm not even using the 220v plug, it's just too damn far away. I can't get the CT into the garage, because that's where I store all my worthless crap.

I appreciate the helpful suggestions, but the temporary solutions are too kludgy and/or expensive. I'll have it all done properly when the PowerShare goes in, including a freestanding charge post like this:

https://shop.tesla.com/product/wall-connector-pedestal

 

[webspeedracer]

My "parking area" is the driveway. The nearest 110v outlet is ~30 feet away, the breaker panel and 220v outlet are ~40 feet away with two intervening walls, and the outdoor main panel is ~60 feet away (and I don't even have a main cutoff).

My dryer is gas so I'm not even using the 220v plug, it's just too damn far away. I can't get the CT into the garage, because that's where I store all my worthless crap.

I appreciate the helpful suggestions, but the temporary solutions are too kludgy and/or expensive. I'll have it all done properly when the PowerShare goes in

I used 120V for my first Tesla in 2016, for 10 months or so…was all good for local groceries/school/work, could maintain with ~40miles regained every night. But longer trips were the problem, especially Friday afternoon departures, without Supercharger or DCFast charging in my region. But CT will only get ~2miles/hour from a 120V/15A. If you have DCfast options nearby then 120V will be doable, but you’ll sacrifice ~30minutes at the frontend of every road trip departing Austin.

Here’s a cheap Plan B option for your house until PowerShare (don’t burn your house down), if 50’ extension + 15’ of the Mobile Charger will get you to that dryer outlet:
https://a.co/d/iHud623
You can always source 75’ or 100’ options too, if necessary.

Bottom line is home charging is the big EV differentiator to a gas car, is less convenient without it.

 

[cgladue]

120v is quite inefficient compared to 240v, and if its cold out good luck actually getting any energy into the pack most of it will be used to keep the batteries warm. Long term you spend more on electricity charging on 120v vs 240v.

 

[CyberGus]

I used 120V for my first Tesla in 2016, for 10 months or so…was all good for local groceries/school/work, could maintain with ~40miles regained every night. But longer trips were the problem, especially Friday afternoon departures, without Supercharger or DCFast charging in my region. But CT will only get ~2miles/hour from a 120V/15A. If you have DCfast options nearby then 120V will be doable, but you’ll sacrifice ~30minutes at the frontend of every road trip departing Austin.

Here’s a cheap Plan B option for your house until PowerShare (don’t burn your house down), if 50’ extension + 15’ of the Mobile Charger will get you to that dryer outlet:
https://a.co/d/iHud623
You can always source 75’ or 100’ options too, if necessary.

Bottom line is home charging is the big EV differentiator to a gas car, is less convenient without it.

Again, I appreciate the effort, but I've only been thinking about this for 4 years or so.

The 220v extension cord is a $100+ accessory that I will use only briefly, and would require me to punch large holes in multiple walls that would then need to be patched and painted.

I WFH half the time, but It's less than 5 miles to my office and I can practically see the nearest Supercharger out my window.

If I thought it would take 2-3 years (!!?!) to get the PowerShare installed, I would consider other options, but I think I can limp along for a few weeks/months.

 

[CyberGus]

if its cold out good luck actually getting any energy into the pack most of it will be used to keep the batteries warm

Dude, I live in TX

Most of the time, I'll need to cool the battery lol

 

[cgladue]

Dude, I live in TX

Most of the time, I'll need to cool the battery lol

i was directing it mainly to anyone else who is in a cold climate or in case you guys get a cold snap again and start loosing your minds like last time in 2021