New Wired Article- Elon's Production Hell

[Cali5268]

Has anyone read these new articles detailing more info about Tesla production? It is scathing and could help explain the issues many of us are facing, with CT and other models.

I attached the important pics from the article, but included other articles stating the same thing at the bottom. This is not isolated.

This has always been my worst fear, that behind the scenes production and design are seriously flawed. I love Teslas. I love the vehicles. I love the concept. I would love nothing but Teslas until I die. But there has been a serious issue with the leadership and the exec team. For what it's worth, this isn't the first organization that has written an article like this, with inside sources. Many different news outlets have. It's documented that Tesla leadership has a serious problem with production, and quite frankly most departments. I've always supported Tesla but something has to change.

I am of the thinking that if a more competent and responsible direction was taken by Tesla execs, we would be in a much better situation with our CTs (and all Teslas). I realize this next issues is regional, but the SC in my area is not reliable or knowledgeable. I like the people, but they are a nightmare to work with. Delays, issues, parts...you name it.

I feel like I canonly look the other way on production/QA/Safety issues for so long. I want to support Tesla, but they have been making it so difficult lately.

What do you all think? What can we do (if anything) as supporters to try and get this company back on the right track? It has more potential than any other car company in the world, imo. I do hold a few shares, but I'm a small fish- unable to make an impact as a shareholder.

* Related older articles:
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/08/17...-in-raw-sewage-sleeping-on-the-factory-floor/
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-life-inside-gigafactory/

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[Deleted member 17810]

wheres the new article?

 

[Ray in montana]

Has anyone read these new articles detailing more info about Tesla production? It is scathing and could help explain the issues many of us are facing, with CT and other models.

I attached the important pics from the article, but included other articles stating the same thing at the bottom. This is not isolated.

This has always been my worst fear, that behind the scenes production and design are seriously flawed. I love Teslas. I love the vehicles. I love the concept. I would love nothing but Teslas until I die. But there has been a serious issue with the leadership and the exec team. For what it's worth, this isn't the first organization that has written an article like this, with inside sources. Many different news outlets have. It's documented that Tesla leadership has a serious problem with production, and quite frankly most departments. I've always supported Tesla but something has to change.

I am of the thinking that if a more competent and responsible direction was taken by Tesla execs, we would be in a much better situation with our CTs (and all Teslas). I realize this next issues is regional, but the SC in my area is not reliable or knowledgeable. I like the people, but they are a nightmare to work with. Delays, issues, parts...you name it.

I feel like I canonly look the other way on production/QA/Safety issues for so long. I want to support Tesla, but they have been making it so difficult lately.

What do you all think? What can we do (if anything) as supporters to try and get this company back on the right track? It has more potential than any other car company in the world, imo. I do hold a few shares, but I'm a small fish- unable to make an impact as a shareholder.

* Related older articles:
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/08/17...-in-raw-sewage-sleeping-on-the-factory-floor/
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-life-inside-gigafactory/

and this news? 2018?

 

[rudedawg78]

I don't trust any of Wired's articles about the Cybertruck. They have wrote dozens of articles about the CT and they are all negative about Tesla., not a single positive or unbiased article. Most of the articles have been proven inaccurate and not factual.

Imagine that?

 

[JPfromTCE]

Serious question, has the wired wrote anything positive about the cybertruck? Ever?

 

[Speedr]

I'd say look at the results vs. the articles from "experts".

Tesla has very few PHYSICAL recalls compared to other manufacturers, and their cars are the safest out there.

If there were all these issues, you'd think there would be a ton of issues (i.e. like the recall Ford had to do with the roof glass flying off MachEs, or Toyota replacing over 100,000 ENGINES)!

 

[Woodrick]

Has anyone read these new articles detailing more info about Tesla production? It is scathing and could help explain the issues many of us are facing, with CT and other models.

I attached the important pics from the article, but included other articles stating the same thing at the bottom. This is not isolated.

This has always been my worst fear, that behind the scenes production and design are seriously flawed. I love Teslas. I love the vehicles. I love the concept. I would love nothing but Teslas until I die. But there has been a serious issue with the leadership and the exec team. For what it's worth, this isn't the first organization that has written an article like this, with inside sources. Many different news outlets have. It's documented that Tesla leadership has a serious problem with production, and quite frankly most departments. I've always supported Tesla but something has to change.

I am of the thinking that if a more competent and responsible direction was taken by Tesla execs, we would be in a much better situation with our CTs (and all Teslas). I realize this next issues is regional, but the SC in my area is not reliable or knowledgeable. I like the people, but they are a nightmare to work with. Delays, issues, parts...you name it.

I feel like I canonly look the other way on production/QA/Safety issues for so long. I want to support Tesla, but they have been making it so difficult lately.

What do you all think? What can we do (if anything) as supporters to try and get this company back on the right track? It has more potential than any other car company in the world, imo. I do hold a few shares, but I'm a small fish- unable to make an impact as a shareholder.

* Related older articles:
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/08/17...-in-raw-sewage-sleeping-on-the-factory-floor/
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-life-inside-gigafactory/

Scathing? These articles that you showed are the most complimentary articles that exist!
They show how a CEO actually got down on the factory floor and fixed issues slowing production down.
A CEO that found problems and solved them, how novel.

Elon got a LOT of support for doing what he did, living on the production floor.


This is a story about the Model 3 production, not the Cybertruck.

It is relatively well known that Elon moved on to the production for a few months. It was his hard work and inspiration to others that got the line moving so much faster than when it started.
Yes, he found that so many of the "legacy ways" were just downright stupid and changed them.

Elon and Tesla then took what they had learned in the Model 3 and designed the Model Y as "Designed for Production" They optimized everything they could to make that car go through production quicker and better. That's why the Tesla production sites make more vehicles than other manufacturers sites.

And then for the Cybertuck, it wasn't designed for production, unlike any other vehicle, it and production were designed together. That's so obvious in so many ways.

As to

I am of the thinking that if a more competent and responsible direction was taken by Tesla execs, we would be in a much better situation with our CTs (and all Teslas).

You are 100% off-base.

 

[Woodrick]

Serious question, has the wired wrote anything positive about the cybertruck? Ever?

Yes, this article is one of them. Read it and don't pay attention to @Cali5268 's comments, his interpretation is just wrong.

 

[CyberGus]

I disapprove of Elon's termination threats and actions. Loyalty is a two-way street, and fearful employees perform poorly.

But the rest of it sounds like Tesla's brand of Agile manufacturing. Sure, making changes on-the-fly can induce problems, but so does waiting 6 months for the "Engineering Control Committee" to make a damn decision.

 

[Nice2CTu]

These quotes ars directly copied from sections of Walter Isaacson's biography, and they were not derogatory comments, but descrbing the dedication Musk had in getting details right on the manufacturing floor.

This seems very suspicious that someone would quote these as recent articles, and weave a storyline abouf Tssla production problems. Shameful.

 

[Lowcoe]

Joined a week ago. First post.. Smells fishy..

 

[HaulingAss]

For what it's worth, this isn't the first organization that has written an article like this, with inside sources. Many different news outlets have. It's documented that Tesla leadership has a serious problem with production, and quite frankly most departments. I've always supported Tesla but something has to change.

I don't know what to say except that I feel sorry for anyone that can't tell the difference between a cheap hit piece specifically designed to lower Tesla's stock price in 2018, and actual news (that is current).

Just as embarrassing, someone who can't tell the difference between a Model 3 production hell article and the Cybertruck. So embarrassing on so many levels.

Tesla is not bad at manufacturing, they excel at it! I don't see GM or Ford making anything even close to the Cybertruck, and certainly not as efficiently either. If GM made the Cybertruck, which is actually impossible on so many levels, it would have taken over 14 years to bring to market, would have been rife with problems, cost $165K to buy and $225K to manufacture. But that would never happen.

No offense, but you have to be really ignorant, about so many things, to believe cheap hit pieces like this. Perhaps you still don't understand how threatening Tesla is to existing cash flows. I'm not sure how you have missed the ball by so far.

 

[BeFamousVideo]

Has anyone read these new articles detailing more info about Tesla production? It is scathing and could help explain the issues many of us are facing, with CT and other models.

I attached the important pics from the article, but included other articles stating the same thing at the bottom. This is not isolated.

This has always been my worst fear, that behind the scenes production and design are seriously flawed. I love Teslas. I love the vehicles. I love the concept. I would love nothing but Teslas until I die. But there has been a serious issue with the leadership and the exec team. For what it's worth, this isn't the first organization that has written an article like this, with inside sources. Many different news outlets have. It's documented that Tesla leadership has a serious problem with production, and quite frankly most departments. I've always supported Tesla but something has to change.

I am of the thinking that if a more competent and responsible direction was taken by Tesla execs, we would be in a much better situation with our CTs (and all Teslas). I realize this next issues is regional, but the SC in my area is not reliable or knowledgeable. I like the people, but they are a nightmare to work with. Delays, issues, parts...you name it.

I feel like I canonly look the other way on production/QA/Safety issues for so long. I want to support Tesla, but they have been making it so difficult lately.

What do you all think? What can we do (if anything) as supporters to try and get this company back on the right track? It has more potential than any other car company in the world, imo. I do hold a few shares, but I'm a small fish- unable to make an impact as a shareholder.

* Related older articles:
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/08/17...-in-raw-sewage-sleeping-on-the-factory-floor/
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-life-inside-gigafactory/

These are excerpts from the Walter Isaacson biography "Elon Musk". I've read it. And it was a fascinating book as the author was allowed full access to Tesla and SpaceX and followed Elon around daily for 2 years. After finishing the book I thought other car mfgs should read it to learn how to lower cost and "delete, delete, delete delete" one of Elon's most famous strategies. Elon is an extremely extraordinary person.

 

[RandyS]

In reading the Wired article, it brought back all of those Tesla memories....I took delivery of Model 3 VIN number 1927 on 12/21/17 during all of the craziness...

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