JerryRigEverything: How far can the CYBERTRUCK tow 11,000lbs in Freezing Weather?

[BannedByTMC]

On the freeway? And you didn't know?

Yes and yes. It happens, even with navigation. Nav says "go this way", then something happens up ahead and you are taking a different, longer route.

 

[Keeney]

Another data point found on Ttwitter about EV towing mileage for a 39' 9500 lbs travel trailer: 0.9 mi / kWh.

 

[Crissa]

Yes and yes. It happens, even with navigation. Nav says "go this way", then something happens up ahead and you are taking a different, longer route.

But the thing is, you know how much energy you have. You know how much energy you're consuming. It's simple math problem. And it's not like an ICE which you might or might not be able to coast and every slow down leaves your engine drinking heavily that range away.

-Crissa

 

[Crissa]

Another data point found on Ttwitter about EV towing mileage for a 39' 9500 lbs travel trailer: 0.9 mi / kWh.

I'm not sure there could be a worse situation. It's super-un-aerodynamic. It's very cold. He's not a very efficient driver to begin with. He's showing off with the truck.

And even then, there's still a few miles left in the battery.

-Crissa

 

[agordon117]

But the thing is, you know how much energy you have. You know how much energy you're consuming. It's simple math problem. And it's not like an ICE which you might or might not be able to coast and every slow down leaves your engine drinking heavily that range away.

-Crissa

Yes but if you're planning to arrive at 0%, and your trip gets 5 miles longer due to a detour that just happened and navigation has no record of... Or you know, like a slowdown that causes you to be stuck between exits and having to heat the cabin while you want to get off of the highway, you are going to run into an issue at some point. That's what he's trying to say. Leaving no buffer to get to your destination is objectively not smart.

 

[Elon is Rocket Man]

Not a perfect test but JRE is pretty well respected and he recently did a towing test.

Not good news for towing with the CT, but props to JRE for doing the test and I believe Our Cyber Life for loaning the vehicle for testing.

Cold weather but above freezing.

Max of about 65MPH some town, city, highway.

He had to drop down to 42 on the highway in order to not run out of battery before getting to the supercharging, getting passed by cars going much faster in this 65mph zone.

The range estimation in the truck was way off.

Vault was closed

About 10,500 lbs

He got 90 miles taking the battery from 100% to 2%
So if using a typical 80% of the battery that is a range of 72 miles when towing a heavy load

He had previously run the same tests with the rivian and F150 lightning
Cybertruck 90 miles
Rivian 100 miles
Ford F150 Lightning 130 miles

Acceleration 0-60 was the same for all 3 trucks

Cybertruck had significantly more road noise

Had bugs/issues with vehicle graphics

A real bummer that the CT is the 3rd place truck when it comes to towing.

Credit to ourcyberlife for loaning the truck and jerryrigeverything for the test


TLDR
Towing a heavy load with the CT you are going to get about 70-90 miles in cool weather, driving at lower speeds. Less range than the Rivian and Ford tests

Bad towing range, bad headlights (can't see the road at night), bad charging curve, noisy compared to the Lightning, smaller frunk than Lightning, less range than promised, Starting at a 50% higher price than originally promised $61,000 instead of $39,000. Much higher price than the Lightning and no Autopilot. Why would anybody really buy it now?? The only way to get all of these MAJOR problems fixed is a MAJOR update of all of these problems for the 2025.

I am NOT buying the 2024 model, and the headlights are outright dangerous, diving next to one in Pasadena CA side by side my M3 headlights were At least two times brighter and the M3 reaches twice as far as the Cybertruck, when I turned off the headlights on my M3 to see how good the Cybertruck headlights were when driving next to him You could barely see the road, I don't know how the guy in the Cybertruck could even see at night. If any of you drive in San Marino CA. (South of Pasadena) As I do, most of you would know there are a lot of winding roads with no street lights or old 1920's street lights that don't light the streets very good, the CT would be dangerous on these Roads or on dark Mountain Roads. Also when this guy turned on his turn. Signal to move into my lane you couldn't even see that tiny little side marker light buried in the front bumper, the side marker lights on the S,XY & 3 that are on the front fender are SOOOO Much brighter and visible. Too many bad things on the CT that Tesla already had fixed Years ago. And the 4680 battery's turned out to be a dud.

 

[Crissa]

Yes but if you're planning to arrive at 0%, and your trip gets 5 miles longer due to a detour that just happened and navigation has no record of... Or you know, like a slowdown that causes you to be stuck between exits and having to heat the cabin while you want to get off of the highway, you are going to run into an issue at some point. That's what he's trying to say. Leaving no buffer to get to your destination is objectively not smart.

So you go half speed for 5 miles. Or drop to 60 from 80 for 10 miles. Or you see things didn't go your way and stop at a different charger.

Or you don't, and use the safety margin at the bottom. Because there is one.

It depends on the jump you're making. A mountain route I might leave a 100% buffer (aka, get to the last mile, have to turn back) while on a freeway route I'd probably leave a 0% buffer.

Bad towing range, bad headlights (can't see the road at night), bad charging curve, noisy...

None of these have been proven, so don't buy the truck. There's alot of others waiting.

-Crissa

 

[Gigahorse]

I think the results are too close to call, and not enough of a difference to sway someone from buying one truck or the other based on towing range. Personally, if I planned to frequently tow any significant load over long distances, I'd stick with a diesel or gasoline truck.

Agreed, if you have a hauling business neither one will likely work.
Personally over the last couple of years with Tesla battery tech etc I expected the CT to outperform the Rivian significantly but they came out fairly close with the Rivian being able to tow a bit longer due to factors like a bigger battery.

 

[Elon is Rocket Man]

You didn't need today's hindsight to know that "500 miles" was never real world miles. That information was known well in advance of 2019. It was not difficult to know that if you got "500 miles", you'd probably end up with 300 real world miles in winter. And less than that towing. You'd need a 400kWh pack to get the kind of numbers you seem to have been expecting.

The fact he was lied to or bait and switched is what he is complaining about.

And why would you be bragging about a truck that gets less range than a model Y ???? ??????

 

[Crissa]

The fact he was lied to or bait and switched is what he is complaining about.

And why would you be bragging about a truck that gets less range than a model Y ???? ??????

No one lied or baited and switched.

When they were ready to hand up trucks, they updated the website. And then didn't take money from all but a handful until weeks later.

-Crissa

 

[Elon is Rocket Man]

No one lied or baited and switched.

When they were ready to hand up trucks, they updated the website. And then didn't take money from all but a handful until weeks later.

-Crissa

When someone already has a Working & Tested prototype and then knowingly tells you 500 miles when the Truck doesn't even get a bloated 500 mile EPA rating that's called (Bait & Switch). Ford gave MORE miles on the Lightning than was originally quoted when they had their Prototype...... And That's called. ( Fulfilling a Promise!).???

 

[intimidator]

I currently have a Lightning.
I tow the boat....not long distances....so range is never an issue.
Although I do try to have it at 90% SOC when I head out.

I definitely would not try towing it 300-400 miles in a day.

 

[Elon is Rocket Man]

I currently have a Lightning.
I tow the boat....not long distances....so range is never an issue.
Although I do try to have it at 90% SOC when I head out.

I definitely would not try towing it 300-400 miles in a day.

You would probably have better towing Range with a Model Y Performance.

 

[Startreknerd]

Not a perfect test but JRE is pretty well respected and he recently did a towing test.

Not good news for towing with the CT, but props to JRE for doing the test and I believe Our Cyber Life for loaning the vehicle for testing.

Cold weather but above freezing.

Max of about 65MPH some town, city, highway.

He had to drop down to 42 on the highway in order to not run out of battery before getting to the supercharging, getting passed by cars going much faster in this 65mph zone.

The range estimation in the truck was way off.

Vault was closed

About 10,500 lbs

He got 90 miles taking the battery from 100% to 2%
So if using a typical 80% of the battery that is a range of 72 miles when towing a heavy load

He had previously run the same tests with the rivian and F150 lightning
Cybertruck 90 miles
Rivian 100 miles
Ford F150 Lightning 130 miles

Acceleration 0-60 was the same for all 3 trucks

Cybertruck had significantly more road noise

Had bugs/issues with vehicle graphics

A real bummer that the CT is the 3rd place truck when it comes to towing.

Credit to ourcyberlife for loaning the truck and jerryrigeverything for the test


TLDR
Towing a heavy load with the CT you are going to get about 70-90 miles in cool weather, driving at lower speeds. Less range than the Rivian and Ford tests

It's a good thing 99.999% of all trips aren't at 37° f towing 11,400 pounds.

 

[Jethro]

Well L:ightning doesn’t count at 72 degrees! Gotta do apples to apples. Have not seen a temperature/range chart.