CCS1 to NACS Adapter for Cybertruck now available in Tesla Shop

[pricedm]

I bought a MCEVKELN adapter several months ago, and I have used it 3 times. One at a ChargePoint 200kW charge in Fairplay, CO, as there was no Tesla supercharger anywhere near, and twice at a 300kW Rivian charger in Del Norte, CO because is was an even split between Denver and Pagosa Springs. At both stations, I was able to get the maximum charge rate. Although, one of the 2 ChargePoint chargers would not connect to my CT. No issues at Rivian.

I use Poncha Springs (good ol' gen 2 Supercharger) when I'm in the Salida, CO, area. Good to know Rivian chargers in Del Norte are an option.

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[Hookalakupua]

I use Poncha Springs (good ol' gen 2 Supercharger) when I'm in the Salida, CO, area. Good to know Rivian chargers in Del Norte are an option.

Salida!! No way as we’ve got family land out there. Good to know there’s a charger in Del Norte! Thanks.

 

[Dragoon]

I’m planning a trip to New Mexico through Roswell, which is at least 100 miles away from the nearest Supercharger. For that trip, it’s CCS or bust.

I’ve plotted routes that use Superchargers only, but it’s a significant detour, and still leaves little margin for error without access to 3rd-party charging.

I've had good luck using the Francis Energy chargers for my New Mexico trips. They're expensive, but they worked well and had a good charging speed. Having a Supercharger in Roswell will be huge. Now, if we could just get a Supercharger in Brownfield/Plains/Tatum, we could take the shortest route and not have to sweat it after leaving Big Spring on the way to Roswell.

 

[henchman24]

So what’s the retrofit part? Our x is 2024 with HW4

Early 3/Y/S/X didn't use CCS communication protocols. In simplest terms, NACS (prior to being an open, published standard) used CAN communication while CCS utilized PLC. Tesla added the ability for PLC communication near the end of 2020 production. Now it gets really fuzzy for about a year where Tesla was trying to get their hands on any boards they could find and some 2021s (especially early) don't have the CCS communication. Pretty much any 2022-on does (though some blips have occurred without). If you check in the software, it should say CCS capable for any vehicle that doesn't need a retrofit.

All the retrofit is, is a new communication board that utilizes PLC communication (it can still do CAN) and matches values to the old sensor suite monitoring the inlet port.

Years ago, way before Tesla offered a retrofit, people figured out that you could swap in the new board with a jumper harness (that had some resistors to adapt the sensor ranges), and force an update from Tesla to activate CCS on <2021 models.

 

[Jbrazda]

Why would anyone buy this when the A2Z one is cheaper, and better???

 

[doggod]

I just picked up my model S plaid and there is one in the trunk with charger and J-1772 adapter

 

[hemiarch]

Why would anyone buy this when the A2Z one is cheaper, and better???

That’s what I’m trying to understand also

 

[henchman24]

Why would anyone buy this when the A2Z one is cheaper, and better???

Certification... both the chargepoint operator and the automaker have to approve the usage of UL2252 adapters. Many chargepoint operators have said that is sufficient. As I recall (and could be wrong as I haven't looked in the last few months) Tesla has gone the route of approving specific adapters instead of saying all UL2252 are approved. If Tesla doesn't, then they can deny any issues arising from its usage. IMO not much risk with A2Z (I own and use one), but it isn't zero either.

 

[CallsignVega]

Why would anyone buy this when the A2Z one is cheaper, and better???

What's better about the A2Z? Both are 1000v 500amp. And with the Tesla adapter they can't go down the "aftermarket part caused an issue" BS route.

 

[hemiarch]

What's better about the A2Z? Both are 1000v 500amp. And with the Tesla adapter they can't go down the "aftermarket part caused an issue" BS route.

I thought the Tesla one was max 250kw no?

 

[HaulingAss]

I've never owned an EV with a CCS charge port but one look at this photo makes it apparent just how ridiculously over-sized the CCS charge plug really is:

It's so big it's almost comedic. And yes, I'm aware of the ill-advised EV industry decisions that led up to this monstrosity. Thank God Tesla exists!

 

[CallsignVega]

I thought the Tesla one was max 250kw no?

It has the same exact 1000 volt/500 AMP rating as the A2Z. Nowhere on the A2Z webpage does it state what the kW charging speed is.

 

[henchman24]

I've never owned an EV with a CCS charge port but one look at this photo makes it apparent just how ridiculously over-sized the CCS charge plug really is:

It's so big it's almost comedic. And yes, I'm aware of the ill-advised EV industry decisions that led up to this monstrosity. Thank God Tesla exists!

And amazingly, the plug is only a small part of the problem. Most were paired with unwieldy, comically heavy cables that when it is below 45-50 degrees don't bend.

It has the same exact 1000 volt/500 AMP rating as the A2Z. Nowhere on the A2Z webpage does it state what the kW charging speed is.

And of note, most CCS chargers are 800v capable to cut the amperage. So most chargers will be below 350-400 amps (350/400kW will be above) and that is more of the concern with adapters than pure voltage.

 

[CallsignVega]

And of note, most CCS chargers are 800v capable to cut the amperage. So most chargers will be below 350-400 amps (350/400kW will be above) and that is more of the concern with adapters than pure voltage.

Which is curious why Tesla would state max 250kW charging for this adapter as with 800v it's easy to go above that with the 500 AMP rating. Almost a moot point though as the CT charge curve is pretty bad and is only above 250kW for a few minutes anyway low down.

I'm curious if Tesla will somehow artificially limit the charging with this adapter to 250kW, but my gut feeling is it will perform identically to the A2Z version. I suspect the 250kW limit statement is based off of 400v charging. I guess we should get some test results once people get their hands on it.

 

[henchman24]

Which is curious why Tesla would state max 250kW charging for this adapter as with 800v it's easy to go above that with the 500 AMP rating. Almost a moot point though as the CT charge curve is pretty bad and is only above 250kW for a few minutes anyway low down.

I'm curious if Tesla will somehow artificially limit the charging with this adapter to 250kW, but my gut feeling is it will perform identically to the A2Z version. I suspect the 250kW limit statement is based off of 400v charging. I guess we should get some test results once people get their hands on it.

Could be lots of reasons, but they are probably just lazy in rating.

I recently got >250kW to 32% on a V3+. That is way more than enough time over 250kW to cause an issue if it was specifically power limited (which it really isn't since amps are the main issue).

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