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Why are we trusting Grok for anything speculative? Use it to tell jokes or even banter about conspiracy theories. But actionable "insider" info? Might as well ask a random person on the street.

True. But knowing Elon still wants/expect it to be $199/month, I would count on it creeping back up to that price, eventually.

Can you ask another Tesla driver to test?

Price Elasticity of Demand. Has their been a mainstream subscription service in the past 10 years that hasn't gone up?

Understand, and that is the pragmatic take... but fast forward 1-2 years, UFSD is 'real' and people are paying a $3K-$5K premium for used FSD Teslas w/AI4 vs. those without. Andy maybe FSD price goes up to $129/month?

Tesla isn't planning on giving anyone "newer hardware". The verbatim quotes from Oct 22, 2025 earnings call on the subject are as follows:

True today, but fast forward one year (or whatever) when there's only a subscription option and UFSD is more likely.

FYI if you're in Texas, you're forced to capitalize the entire sales tax of the vehicle (6.25%) for the initial lease term, and you have to pay sales tax again on any buy-out amount. So even with the expired $7,500/$6,500 lease incentives, the math just doesn't work out if you're in Texas.

You couldn’t use FSD because of snow?

8lbs per wheel is impressive! I'm not sure I saw that mentioned as a feature, but I'd definitely point that out on your product page.

Do you attribute the (good) efficiency of your wheel design more to a reduced(?) weight over the OEM wheels, or an equivalent aero efficiency?

Ah interesting. So if you don't meet the criteria to get these from Tesla, are there alternative option that are near-OEM?

How do we prevent the scratches on the spokes? Is there an OEM center hub 'cap' solution? I've seen people make 3D printed versions.